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Been using Gimp on any computer that my company isn't paying for, and I gotta say i don't understand the irrational hate some of you have expressed. It can do 95% of what Photoshop can, just has an odd interface. Long live Gimp!
 
GIMP can only do about 20% of what Photoshop CS can do. GIMP includes no organizer, nor a raw converter.

Photoshop Elements can do about 30% of what Photoshop CS can do.
 
I think whatever you must have said was buried somewhere in there. #17 just says "More like 2!". That article is from 3 years ago...I can believe that GIMP sucked three years ago, considering the substantial leap that the version made from 3 months ago to what it is now. New GIMP can do just about everything. I use both, and I don't really have many complaints about GIMP's abilities.
 
I look into Gimp periodically, including the most recent release. None of the issues I had with gimp have been resolved. Here is what I wrote there, now that I am off the pad (lmao)

Photoshop is expensive. Period. It’s bloated, too.
But the The Gimp is just .. well, gimpy.

•No Adjustment Layers
This is huge. In order to get the same functionality you must DUPLICATE the base layer, apply the filter or adjustment, and repeat until your comp is done, otherwise there is no going back. This is a big memory waster that is easy to make an irreparable mistake with.

•No 16-bit support
I suppose the lack of adjustment layers isn’t that big a deal without 16- and 32-bit support, at least it’s not going to be as inefficient. So I guess utilizing 1/256 the data is worth it? Oh well. Shadow and Hilight detail isn’t THAT important, right?

•No CMY*K
Separations? Really? Your prepress guy is going to LOVE that. No way to trap. No way to isolate K. No way to control black generation. No way to do much of anything of value until you load it back into Photoshop!
I can 100% guarantee you, that if you fancy yourself a graphic artist and you deliver a .zip containing four greyscale images of a logo without trap or isolation you’ll do nothing but provide lots of laughs from the printer. In fact, submitting such a file is no better than an RGB. At least an RGB won’t need to be recomposed.
So sure, I guess the GIMP is good for lightening the mood for your over stressed prepress department, I can hear the banter now, but you’re going to look very unprofessional. It will cost you more. And when they are asked who they would recommend for a graphic artist, it will not be you.

•Awkward color management
Color management is there… kind of.

•Limited Hue/Sat adjustment
This is the tool I use the most for making the hardest corrections happen. Noise reduction, chromatic aberration, selective color adjustment, vibrancy… but with gimp I’m stuck with only 6 colors to choose from with no feather, just a gimpy “overlap”. This makes hue/sat pretty useless. Sure, you could build a mask, duplicate the layer, apply the hue/sat adjustment, but I’d like to see Photoshop’s Hue/Sat tool improved! Using The Gimp’s hue/sat is just far too limiting.

Why is the gimp so terrible, yet other (unrelated) GPL software so great? It might be in The GIMP users themselves. GIMP is hailed as such a perfect platform, there seems to be little room for improvement. However, the above features are not minor ones, and are used by photographers and/or graphic artists on a daily basis. GIMP users are so busy pointing out how great the GIMP is, that it can do so much that Photoshop can, that there is very little talk about the significant features that it’s lacking.

You don’t see the Blender community saying that Blender can do everything XSI or Maya can do. Because it can’t, and they are not so delusional to think it can. Instead they focus on improving the package so that it can perform rather than inflating on what Blender is already good at.
People who advocate the GIMP clearly are either in denial, or don’t understand the value of things like Adjustment Layers and 16- and 32-bit imaging or native CMYK and LAB.

There certainly are many, many bells and whistles that are compared to Photoshop, and compared to Photoshop LOUDLY. But, it’s not the bloat that I’m interested in, it’s the functionality.

However, gimp is making some enormous steps forward with the GEGL implementation, and hue/sat will be updated by version 3 as well. I think that GIMP will be viable in the very near future, but as of yet it is still significantly lacking in many areas.
 
PlanetStarbucks said:
Been using Gimp on any computer that my company isn't paying for, and I gotta say i don't understand the irrational hate some of you have expressed. It can do 95% of what Photoshop can, just has an odd interface. Long live Gimp!

Hahahahaha that's probably the funniest thing I've ever read in this section.

Dude, I don't know what planet you live on, but that statement is not even 10% true.

There is more than a 70% capability difference in Photoshop's 3D modeling/rendering engine over GIMP alone. You are only saying what you are out of complete lack of experience in ever using Photoshop. For every one great feature you show about GIMP, I can show you 20 that are great about photoshop.

Source:

15 years of adobe photoshop experience.
 
If GIMP does what YOU need it to do, then PS can go suck eggs.

I gotta love all the GIMP-hating, PS-hugging chest-thumpers that proclaim PS is the ONLY game on worth watching. Fact is, not everyone needs what PS offers (and charges dearly for!). Deal with it. If you think having a long list of features is the only way to fly, how many of you have the latest & greatest top-of-the-line cameras & lenses?

I didn't think so.

But please, go ahead with your pissing contests.......... it's great entertainment.

And it's free.



Oh, wait. Free doesn't count. Maybe I should go spend money at the theater instead.
 
480sparky said:
If GIMP does what YOU need it to do, then PS can go suck eggs.

I gotta love all the GIMP-hating, PS-hugging chest-thumpers that proclaim PS is the ONLY game on worth watching. Fact is, not everyone needs what PS offers (and charges dearly for!). Deal with it. If you think having a long list of features is the only way to fly, how many of you have the latest & greatest top-of-the-line cameras & lenses?

I didn't think so.

I tend to agree...l dont care if photoshop can do 20 things for every one demonstratable feature of GIMP.... that is something that only matters to a fanboy. Simply put... does it fit the needs of the user. That is what counts.
 
480sparky said:
If GIMP does what YOU need it to do, then PS can go suck eggs.

I gotta love all the GIMP-hating, PS-hugging chest-thumpers that proclaim PS is the ONLY game on worth watching. Fact is, not everyone needs what PS offers (and charges dearly for!). Deal with it. If you think having a long list of features is the only way to fly, how many of you have the latest & greatest top-of-the-line cameras & lenses?

I didn't think so.

But please, go ahead with your pissing contests.......... it's great entertainment.

And it's free.

Oh, wait. Free doesn't count. Maybe I should go spend money at the theater instead.

I'm not thumping my chest because I have photoshop, but comparing the two is like comparing a Honda civic to a Porsche 911.

Gimp has good features. It's very capable of editing photos as well. My statement was not on a photographical level at all. The options and tools in photoshop go eons beyond photography, and that is my point. If you are solely editing photos, photoshop and photoshop extended are way beyond anything you will ever come close to needing. PSE and LightRoom has everything a photographer needs to edit photos.

I come from a graphic design background. So, my needs go far and beyond the capabilities of GIMP. You can't model, texture, and render 3d in gimp. You can't live paint 3d in gimp. You can't edit videos in Gimp. I can go on and on and on about the things that Gimp cannot do.

However, for simple photo editing, Gimp will do anything you need it to do, and then some. Plus, as you said, it's free.
 
I'm not thumping my chest because I have photoshop, but comparing the two is like comparing a Honda civic to a Porsche 911..........

But there's still some here who will say I need a 911 because it can go from 0 to 60 in 2.9, has a 6-speed manual, leather seats with lumbar support and heat, ad nauseum ad infinitum........... and all I need is economical gas mileage driving 20 blocks to work.
 
480sparky said:
If GIMP does what YOU need it to do, then PS can go suck eggs.

I gotta love all the GIMP-hating, PS-hugging chest-thumpers that proclaim PS is the ONLY game on worth watching. Fact is, not everyone needs what PS offers (and charges dearly for!). Deal with it. If you think having a long list of features is the only way to fly, how many of you have the latest & greatest top-of-the-line cameras & lenses?

I didn't think so.

I tend to agree...l dont care if photoshop can do 20 things for every one demonstratable feature of GIMP.... that is something that only matters to a fanboy. Simply put... does it fit the needs of the user. That is what counts.

8-bit/channel only fit the needs of the most casual of photographers, anyone remotely serious will be limited by it.

And for what it's worth, I don't use Photoshop, and at this point I am not sure that I even would go back, at least not for my own personal uses. Frankly most of the new features added are pretty fauxtographic.
 
I am running Ubuntu and, I have gimp, darktable, and rawtherapy.

I am having difficulty using darktable efficiently as all the instructions I can find seem targeted at a much earlier release of darktable.

I would like to import my cr2 raw files with Adobe rgb color palette and export as tiff after cropping and tweaking the image a little bit. The current release is 1.2.2

Any suggestions on how I can get complete instructions on how to do it for my CR2 files?

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