Mirrorless focal length question

[Dhalevi]

Can anyone explain me how to choose a mirrorless lens?
How does the mm (like 18-55) works?
If regular dslr uses 18-200 mm what does it mean Ib mirrorless cameras?

 

[jaomul]

Focal length is done the same on dslr and mirrorless. It's based on full frame or 35mm lens. You then apply crop factor.

18-55 mm lens on apsc dslr gives field of view of approximately 27-82mm on Nikon, or 28-85 approx on Canon.

If you use a mirror less apsc 18-55 is same, if you use m43, crop factors differ so it's approx 14-42 lens , Fuji or Sony is 18-55 mm

 

[Dhalevi]

Can you explain it again please?
Lets say I'm buying 18-55 lens.
What do I need to look at in the camera ( sensor Size/...) and what calculation do I need to do?
Thanks!

 

[astroNikon]

You have to first understand what size of sensor you are buying in the camera.

Mirrorless comes in all sizes from a FullFrame 35mm sensor to small sensors.

The size of the sensor determines the "crop"
35mm FullFrame sensor = 1 to 1
APS-C sensor = 1.5x (or 1.6x) to 1
other smaller sizes increase that amount ==> https://lensvid.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Sensors-size-01-01.jpg
as below - crop factor is the 4th row.

You then take that crop factor, such as 1.5x for APS-C and multiple it to the lens focal length.
So a 18-55 on a APS-C sensor would
18 x 1.5 - 55 x 1.5 = 27 - 82.5 in perceived field of view

 

[astroNikon]

So just looking at SONY mirrorless cameras ONLY
==> DSLR-like Cameras | Full Frame Mirrorless Cameras | Sony US

the first & second row is all FF sensors. Thus a 1x crop factor. 18-55 would be 18-55

the 3rd, 4th rows are APS-C and thus are 1.5 crop factor. 18-55 would be 27-82.5

A Canon EOS M10 is supposedly a APS-C sensor

PowerShot G9x is a 1.0 inch sensor which is a 2.7x crop factor, thus a 18-55 would be 49 - 149

Thus you have to first determine the sensor size before you figure out the crop factor.

 

[Dhalevi]

Thank you very very very much!

 

[Bebulamar]

The crop factor made the assumption that people are familiar to 35mm camera. They made the assumption that people would know what it looks like in the viewfinder for a certain focal length lens when mounted on a 35mm camera. For example it makes the assumption that you know what the view is when you have a 50mm lens on the 35mm camera.
For people who are not familiar with the 35mm camera and in fact nowaday many people never used a 35mm camera then it may be easier to describe by angle of view / focal length.

 

[petrochemist]

astroNikon has pretty much covered it. It's exactly the same for mirrorless than for DSLRs except for the sizes of the sensors.
I don't think there are currently any mirrorless cameras with sensors bigger than full frame, or any DSLRs with sensors smaller than 4/3. The most common sizes are covered by both alternatives.

 

[beagle100]

It's exactly the same for mirrorless than for DSLRs except for the sizes of the sensors.
I don't think there are currently any mirrorless cameras with sensors bigger than full frame, or any DSLRs with sensors smaller than 4/3. The most common sizes are covered by both alternatives.

true, I don't think there are any medium format mirrorless models (yet)
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

 

[Ysarex]

It's exactly the same for mirrorless than for DSLRs except for the sizes of the sensors.
I don't think there are currently any mirrorless cameras with sensors bigger than full frame, or any DSLRs with sensors smaller than 4/3. The most common sizes are covered by both alternatives.

true, I don't think there are any medium format mirrorless models (yet)
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Sure there are -- you just got to pay to play with the big boys:

That's a Phase One A series mirrorless medium format digital (film too) that uses an Alpa body.

Joe

 

[astroNikon]

It's kinda funny. My P7800 is a full DSLR featured pocket camera with no mirror box. It even has CLS (which the D3x00's don't) and a bright Digital ViewFinder, but isn't considered mirrorless as it does not have an interchangeable lens.

And isn't the Nikon V1/J1 things have a sensor smaller than 4/3rds at 1" (13.2 x 8.8mm) and an interchangeable lens ?

 

[beagle100]

It's exactly the same for mirrorless than for DSLRs except for the sizes of the sensors.
I don't think there are currently any mirrorless cameras with sensors bigger than full frame, or any DSLRs with sensors smaller than 4/3. The most common sizes are covered by both alternatives.

true, I don't think there are any medium format mirrorless models (yet)
www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless

Sure there are -- you just got to pay to play with the big boys:



That's a Phase One A series mirrorless medium format digital (film too) that uses an Alpa body.

Joe

I stand corrected !

www.flickr.com/photos/mmirrorless/

 

[Gary A.]

My Fuji X100S has a fixed, non-interchangeable lens and it's considered mirrorless.