my first Teen Shoot c&c

vtf · Aug 20, 2010

erose86 said:
HOOOOOOOOOLY sh*t! Where the HELL was *I* yesterday when this was going down?!

o hey tyler said:

Edit: You've never heard the name ROBIN, ROBYN, RAWBIN, ETC? Have you been sheltered your entire life?

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My cat's name is Robin... he's a boy. And a cat. :lmao:

Bitter Jeweler said:

Just one? Pffft.

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No. Two.

Haha... MEE TOOO!!!! What the HELL was I doing yesterday?! .... oh yeah. Spending time with my husband for once. Of ALL the days for him to actually be home, and he has to be home on the day this stuff is happening.

:thumbup: x1000

I've been asking this forever.

I really wish PP was around for my very first post. Jesus my sh*t was worse than this by 100,000,000........ and while I'm not amazing... I DO believe I was told by PP in a PM that I had a "really good eye". I doubt he would have said that after seeing my first post... Dude needs to get his head out of his @$$.

My thoughts exactly... but I ran out of "Thank yous" back on page 1... or 2...

BAM! Good for you for coming back. Ignore the jerkwads. :hug::

Taylor510ce said:

Prime, your shots suck, your critiques suck, you have diarrhea of the mouth. You are seriously the most worthless sack on this forum. The sad part is, even with all of her mistakes, the OP is nearly producing pics better than yours. Of course, you realize this and feel the need to rip her down instead of helping her. Now I am sure you will pull out some horsesh*t explanation about how you have so much knowledge and you just know so much, and you are the greatest, but the fact of the matter is that everyone on this thread, and I mean EVERYONE, thinks that you are a useless @ss. I mean you can't sit here and tell yourself that the problem is everyone else. Face the reality.

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Bitter Jeweler said:

And I have to ask again whythefvck you are here. What do you get from it? You continue to be demeaning, and refuse to help in the slightest. Couldn't you point her to some websites on composition? Anything? No, you just want continue discouraging someone based on all your sad pathetic assumptions.

I have yet to see you help ANYONE here.

Can he be voted off the island? Please?

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I've been asking this for even LONGER than I've been asking why he's still here.
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Does anyone have any popcorn left?

Here u go
If we just quote you erose86 we might get to 30 pages.:lmao:

Petraio Prime · Aug 20, 2010

Bitter Jeweler said:
Petraio Prime said:

Bitter Jeweler said:

Ooooooh...you should always post in er111a's threads then.

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Che?

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http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...-forum-photo-gallery/214431-these-better.html

He needs your "help".

What about it?

Skyclad · Aug 20, 2010

Petraio Prime said:
Some people just don't have a good 'eye', and there's not much that can be done about it.That is not intended as an insult.

OK, thats fair enough. BUT! You are telling this person that on their first submission here. How do you know they can't develop a good 'eye' with some useful C&C? Tell the person what to look for, what not to look for and why. Give them a few tools to work with and start them on a path at least, and see if they blossom from there.

But you are doing the exact opposite of that. If you had taken your own advice that you have been giving here when you first picked up a camera, i'm certain that you wouldn't even be here today.

If you can't offer anything useful here, then you should just shut the hell up and move on to the next thread. And I hate to say it, but so far, you haven't done either of the two.

PJL · Aug 20, 2010

Petraio Prime said:
Some people just don't have a good 'eye', and there's not much that can be done about it.That is not intended as an insult.

But the rest of your condescending douchebaggery is. Just because a person might not have the natural gift of a great eye or be able to make the next cover of [fill in your favorite photography-based periodical here] doesn't mean they can't enjoy the hobby and can't improve. Not everyone can write like Charles Dickens or Robert Frost, but that doesn't mean they should not pursue writing if writing is what makes them happy.

Petraio Prime · Aug 20, 2010

Skyclad said:
Petraio Prime said:

Some people just don't have a good 'eye', and there's not much that can be done about it.That is not intended as an insult.

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OK, thats fair enough. BUT! You are telling this person that on their first submission here. How do you know they can't develop a good 'eye' with some useful C&C? Tell the person what to look for, what not to look for and why. Give them a few tools to work with and start them on a path at least, and see if they blossom from there.

But you are doing the exact opposite of that. If you had taken your own advice that you have been giving here when you first picked up a camera, i'm certain that you wouldn't even be here today.

If you can't offer anything useful here, then you should just shut the hell up and move on to the next thread. And I hate to say it, but so far, you haven't done either of the two.

Hmmmm. Well, since you brought this up (for the record), my first attempts were at age 14, and they were in B&W, with rather primitive equipment by today's standards (Speed Graphic 4x5 press camera, Yashica Penta J 35mm without a meter). I was in high school. I suppose you could say these early attempts were not too bad. I won first place twice, in my sophomore and senior years, in state-wide JAOS (Journalism Association of Ohio Schools) competition (for high school photo-journalism). I won third place in my junior year. So, I don't think that what you're saying is necessarily true. Some people have the aptitude, evident quite early on, and some don't.

I'm sure you are familiar with TV shows that pit people against one another in competitions (cooking, hair styling, clothes designing). There are always some that are naturally gifted (or whatever) and some that are not.

In other words, the OP has not just made 'mistakes', it goes deeper than that. You have to be able to 'see' photographically, and in this case, I think, direct study under some good teacher would be necessary. Internet critiques won't be helpful enough. She would have to work side by side with someone for a while and then we could see if there is any significant progress made.

robyn_fresh · Aug 20, 2010

Am I dreadfully hopeless here too; or should I just not photograph girls?

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/photography-beginners-forum-photo-gallery/214416-child-c-c-how-get-rid-these-shadows.html#post1995934

Sonoma · Aug 20, 2010

I honestly think you should keep doing what you are doing. You know what they say " Practice makes perfect!". That coming from someone that has no idea what they are doing.

I did my daughters senior pictures and some turned out OK and others were terrible. Did those with a Canon A60 P&S a long time ago

Good luck and keep shooting!
Gary

Petraio Prime · Aug 20, 2010

robyn_fresh said:
Am I dreadfully hopeless here too; or should I just not photograph girls?

You need to learn to 'see' photographically. It may not be easy.

Skyclad · Aug 20, 2010

Petraio Prime said:
Hmmmm. Well, since you brought this up (for the record), my first attempts were at age 14, and they were in B&W, with rather primitive equipment by today's standards (Speed Graphic 4x5 press camera, Yashica Penta J 35mm without a meter). I was in high school. I suppose you could say these early attempts were not too bad. I won first place twice, in my sophomore and senior years, in state-wide JAOS (Journalism Association of Ohio Schools) competition (for high school photo-journalism). I won third place in my junior year. So, I don't think that what you're saying is necessarily true. Some people have the aptitude, evident quite early on, and some don't.

vtf · Aug 20, 2010

Don't lose heart. Please keep trying and practicing and posting. It will come with time. Dont listen to those who would tear you down instead of supporting you up.
I will look forward to seeing you progress along with me on improving our shots.
Note:If there are any mods out there, please help here.

Skyclad · Aug 20, 2010

Petraio Prime said:
In other words, the OP has not just made 'mistakes', it goes deeper than that. You have to be able to 'see' photographically, and in this case, I think, direct study under some good teacher would be necessary. Internet critiques won't be helpful enough. She would have to work side by side with someone for a while and then we could see if there is any significant progress made.

Just read your own words I quoted here and look at your own pictures linked in my above post.

So far, Robyn's pictures are 100x better than yours, and thats even with her few faults on them.

Petraio Prime · Aug 20, 2010

Skyclad said:
Petraio Prime said:

Hmmmm. Well, since you brought this up (for the record), my first attempts were at age 14, and they were in B&W, with rather primitive equipment by today's standards (Speed Graphic 4x5 press camera, Yashica Penta J 35mm without a meter). I was in high school. I suppose you could say these early attempts were not too bad. I won first place twice, in my sophomore and senior years, in state-wide JAOS (Journalism Association of Ohio Schools) competition (for high school photo-journalism). I won third place in my junior year. So, I don't think that what you're saying is necessarily true. Some people have the aptitude, evident quite early on, and some don't.

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PP, you are so very full of it. Allow me to state my points. (And i'll be nice about it)

Can't frame a shot
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
0606736-R1-062-29A2 - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery

Just a bad shot
Kids practicisng soccer - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery

Just a snapshot
Girls' lacrosse - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Shakespeare - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Shakespeare - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Shakespeare - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Shakespeare - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Comfest 2010, Columbus Ohio - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery

Grainy, Grainy, Grainy
CA in cap, cropped shot - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery
Shakespeare - The Photo Forum Photo Gallery

I hate to say it, but about 95% of all your gallery photos are mere snapshots. Where is the good stuff? Those "contest winning photos"?

Even later on in your life (as seen by above links), you don't have the aptitude appearently.

The 'grainy' one was a severely cropped image to show chromatic aberration.

I don't have a any of my better work here. Most of these are indeed just 'snapshots' taken this summer. It is not a 'gallery' of my 'work'. I just put these here so people can see them if I need to show something to people, not necessarily for this site. I have uploaded all of them from my rolls, including the occasional flops; there was no attempt to select only the 'good' ones. Yes, in a couple of them people moved just as I was about to release the shutter. These were not posed, unlike the situation of the OP.

PJL · Aug 20, 2010

It's sad that PP's behavior is allowed to continue in a beginner-oriented forum. A synopsis of everyone of his posts:

"I'm God's gift to photography, except I'm not a 'photographer.' I'm better than you because I use manual focus equipment and I don't do landscape photography. You should just kill yourself because you'll never be as glorious as me."

Your smug attitude helps absolutely no one. I really hope you're just a troll, because if you have to make yourself feel better about your life's "accomplishment" in photography by constantly tearing down others, you're just a sad human being.

Skyclad · Aug 20, 2010

Robyn, I think you are doing just fine so far. Helpful C&C from this forum plus hands on experience with your camera and you will be turning out great shots in no time!

Taylor510ce · Aug 20, 2010

Its quite clear. Petraio Prime takes every chance to rip people down and every chance to brag about himself ( all with nothing to back it up mind you, I think he is still shooting at the skill level of his 14 year old age bracket and hoping his mom will still put them on the fridge.) He clearly is threatened by everyone and realizes he sucks. He cant stand to think that he has been doing this since 14 years old and there are housewives doing it for a week that are producing pictures close to his. Its a superiority complex. I wonder if hes short like Napoleon. Or maybe all his bragging is to compensate for something else :lmao: