my first Teen Shoot c&c

[Skyclad]

It's sad that PP's behavior is allowed to continue in a beginner-oriented forum. A synopsis of everyone of his posts:

"I'm God's gift to photography, except I'm not a 'photographer.' I'm better than you because I use manual focus equipment and I don't do landscape photography. You should just kill yourself because you'll never be as glorious as me."

Your smug attitude helps absolutely no one. I really hope you're just a troll, because if you have to make yourself feel better about your life's "accomplishment" in photography by constantly tearing down others, you're just a sad human being.

:thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

 

[Skyclad]

I don't have a lot of my better work here. Most of these are indeed just 'snapshots' taken this summer. It is not a 'gallery' of my 'work'. I just put these here so people can see them if I need to show something. I have even uploaded the occasional flops; there was no attempt to select only the 'good' ones.

So then why don't you include your supposed 'good work'? If you can take such good photos, why not show them to people so they can see what they should be doing instead of standing on your soapbox and ripping into them about what they shouldn't be doing?

 

[BKMOOD]

Robyn,

Legendary academy award winning screenwriter William Goldman once remarked of Hollywood: "Nobody knows anything." And on a certain level, it’s so true. Things the "experts" said would succeed fail and things the "experts" said would fail succeed. Having said that let me say this:

I’ve been in the arts for more than 30 years, 20 of those years were spent in New York City. Now I know, that doesn’t compare to the gold standard set by the creative community in Ohio, but I’ve worked with (and talked to) some pretty creative heavy hitters from numerous creative fields. One of the many things they taught me was this:

Where you are today as an artist is absolutely no indication where you will be as an artist tomorrow. Let me repeat that: Where you are today as an artist is absolutely no indication where you will be as an artist tomorrow.

Over the last three and a half decades I’ve spent in this business, I’ve seen the young and gifted end up as gas attendants. I’ve seen the written off end up as super stars. Creativity is a crazy business. Anything can happen and it usually does. Okay, I stole that line from the Mickey Mouse Club. I think Wednesday was Anything Can Happen Day. Or was Wednesday Discovery Day? Hmm…

Shoot what you want to shoot. Have fun! Surround yourself with positive people and don’t you dare let fools on the internet dictate to you what you are and what you should be.

 

[Skyclad]

Shoot what you want to shoot. Have fun! Surround yourself with positive people and don’t you dare let fools on the internet dictate to you what you are and what you should be.

Very well said BK! Never have truer words been spoken here. :thumbup:

 

[graecyn]

Well said, BK.

 

[tookie]

Robyn,

Legendary academy award winning screenwriter William Goldman once remarked of Hollywood: "Nobody knows anything." And on a certain level, it’s so true. Things the "experts" said would succeed fail and things the "experts" said would fail succeed. Having said that let me say this:

I’ve been in the arts for more than 30 years, 20 of those years were spent in New York City. Now I know, that doesn’t compare to the gold standard set by the creative community in Ohio, but I’ve worked with (and talked to) some pretty creative heavy hitters from numerous creative fields. One of the many things they taught me was this:

Where you are today as an artist is absolutely no indication where you will be as an artist tomorrow. Let me repeat that: Where you are today as an artist is absolutely no indication where you will be as an artist tomorrow.

Over the last three and a half decades I’ve spent in this business, I’ve seen the young and gifted end up as gas attendants. I’ve seen the written off end up as super stars. Creativity is a crazy business. Anything can happen and it usually does. Okay, I stole that line from the Mickey Mouse Club. I think Wednesday was Anything Can Happen Day. Or was Wednesday Discovery Day? Hmm…

Shoot what you want to shoot. Have fun! Surround yourself with positive people and don’t you dare let fools on the internet dictate to you what you are and what you should be.

Wouldn't it be wonderful to end this thread on that note!

 

[Petraio Prime]

I don't have a lot of my better work here. Most of these are indeed just 'snapshots' taken this summer. It is not a 'gallery' of my 'work'. I just put these here so people can see them if I need to show something. I have even uploaded the occasional flops; there was no attempt to select only the 'good' ones.

So then why don't you include your supposed 'good work'? If you can take such good photos, why not show them to people so they can see what they should be doing instead of standing on your soapbox and ripping into them about what they shouldn't be doing?

Because I feel no compulsion to do so, and have no interest in doing so, and because much of it have never been scanned or in some cases, it is lost or inaccessible.

 

[Skyclad]

I don't have a lot of my better work here. Most of these are indeed just 'snapshots' taken this summer. It is not a 'gallery' of my 'work'. I just put these here so people can see them if I need to show something. I have even uploaded the occasional flops; there was no attempt to select only the 'good' ones.

So then why don't you include your supposed 'good work'? If you can take such good photos, why not show them to people so they can see what they should be doing instead of standing on your soapbox and ripping into them about what they shouldn't be doing?

Because I feel no compulsion to do so, and have no interest in doing so, and because much of it have never been scanned or in some cases, it is lost or inaccessible.

But yet you have this huge interest and compulsion in putting crappy photos in your gallery and calling other peoples photos crap and that they shouldn't be taking pictures.

 

[white]

I don't have a lot of my better work here. Most of these are indeed just 'snapshots' taken this summer. It is not a 'gallery' of my 'work'. I just put these here so people can see them if I need to show something. I have even uploaded the occasional flops; there was no attempt to select only the 'good' ones.

So then why don't you include your supposed 'good work'? If you can take such good photos, why not show them to people so they can see what they should be doing instead of standing on your soapbox and ripping into them about what they shouldn't be doing?

Because I feel no compulsion to do so, and have no interest in doing so, and because much of it have never been scanned or in some cases, it is lost or inaccessible.

Probably best that you don't. Because of your tendency to argue and derail threads and the fact that your bluntness causes many people to think you're a stinky poo-poo head, your work will be held to such a high standard any feedback will surely be negative.

 

[Petraio Prime]

So then why don't you include your supposed 'good work'? If you can take such good photos, why not show them to people so they can see what they should be doing instead of standing on your soapbox and ripping into them about what they shouldn't be doing?

Because I feel no compulsion to do so, and have no interest in doing so, and because much of it have never been scanned or in some cases, it is lost or inaccessible.

But yet you have this huge interest and compulsion in putting crappy photos in your gallery and calling other peoples photos crap and that they shouldn't be taking pictures.

They are stored here for other purposes (so that I can show them to people on the internet without having to have them on my laptop computer) and should not be construed as a 'gallery' just because that's the name of the space they occupy on this site. As you can see, they are not 'selected'. There are indeed some flubs, as will occur when you deal with the kind of subjects I deal with. Most importantly, none of them is posed.

 

[Sonoma]

Good lord people stop the insanity. This board has "Private messaging". take it somewhere else.

Please

 

[benlonghair]

Because I feel no compulsion to do so, and have no interest in doing so, and because much of it have never been scanned or in some cases, it is lost or inaccessible.

But yet you have this huge interest and compulsion in putting crappy photos in your gallery and calling other peoples photos crap and that they shouldn't be taking pictures.

They are stored here for other purposes (so that I can show them to people on the internet without having to have them on my laptop computer) and should not be construed as a 'gallery' just because that's the name of the space they occupy on this site. As you can see, they are not 'selected'. There are indeed some flubs, as will occur when you deal with the kind of subjects I deal with. Most importantly, none of them is posed.

I still say you're a troll unless proven otherwise. And, being a Farker, I know my trolls. You're not doing anything to prove otherwise.

 

[Taylor510ce]

This guy is a complete and utter joke. Look at him backpedal about why he cant be inconvenienced with posting some of his so called quality work. Lost or inaccessable.....give me a break. All the time to be a douche, but no time to be a decent part of this community, or to even back up his moronic tirades. I think PP was banned before, and has come bck just to be ajerk. There is no other logical way to explain such a moron. :lmao:

 

[Petraio Prime]

Hmmmm. Well, since you brought this up (for the record), my first attempts were at age 14, and they were in B&W, with rather primitive equipment by today's standards (Speed Graphic 4x5 press camera, Yashica Penta J 35mm without a meter). I was in high school. I suppose you could say these early attempts were not too bad. I won first place twice, in my sophomore and senior years, in state-wide JAOS (Journalism Association of Ohio Schools) competition (for high school photo-journalism). I won third place in my junior year. So, I don't think that what you're saying is necessarily true. Some people have the aptitude, evident quite early on, and some don't.

PP, you are so very full of it. Allow me to state my points. (And i'll be nice about it)


Can't frame a shot.

Actually, this one is correctly framed:

http://www.thephotoforum.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/12569/ppuser/62499

Notice how your attention goes straight to her eyes.

The girl's eyes need 'space' to look out into (the space I left at the left side of the photo). Had I included the back of her head it would not have looked right.

Here's an example of your not knowing how best to compose such a photo.

Again, this was a candid of people at a festival.

 

[white]

I hope PeePee stays for a very long time.