My Intern

[RobbyyKaiser]

Not bad the second batch of shots is better than the first in my opinion but there all sweet!

 

[The_Traveler]

In general, nice group, good focus and dof but the PPing doesn't look finished to me.

Several of these (like #1) look overbright too me but that might be a monitor difference). However since she is so fair, the ones where there is so much white shirt, like 1, the shirt is competing for attention)
In #1, she has rather little girl hands and ugly nail polish; I wouldn't include them.
IMO, the WB is a little blue in several, especially the one with the team jacket.

Where she leans against the wall and the foreground is OOF, her color is markedly different that the others.

The second one in the second batch, where she is on the right half of the frame, is not well-framed. She doesn't have enough character or interest in her face to hold up against the expanse of green.

In several of these, there are verticals that are part of the 'design' but the verticals are off; IMO, this does detract from the feeling of the shot. There's nothing that says this tilt is meaningful, just a mistake.

 

[twocolor]

Several of these (like #1) look overbright too me but that might be a monitor difference). However since she is so fair, the ones where there is so much white shirt, like 1, the shirt is competing for attention)
In #1, she has rather little girl hands and ugly nail polish; I wouldn't include them.
IMO, the WB is a little blue in several, especially the one with the team jacket.

Where she leans against the wall and the foreground is OOF, her color is markedly different that the others.

The second one in the second batch, where she is on the right half of the frame, is not well-framed. She doesn't have enough character or interest in her face to hold up against the expanse of green.

In several of these, there are verticals that are part of the 'design' but the verticals are off; IMO, this does detract from the feeling of the shot. There's nothing that says this tilt is meaningful, just a mistake.

OK, I am all about thoughtful and helpful critique. I will go and fix my "verticals", and I will defineately go in and look at the color cast in the images you mentioned, I also will double check my histogram on the images that are bright (which I already have, and there aren't any blown highlights), BUT I think it's rediculous to mention things like "little girl hands and ugly fingernail polish" or your opinion that "She doesn't have enough character or interest in her face to hold up against the expanse of green". They are offensive comments (which my intern HAS read), and should have been kept to yourself.

Critique my stuff, even critique it hard, I can take it and learn from it. Critique about how someone looks or how they paint their nails, is NOT acceptable to me. DO NOT screw with someone's self esteem. People in ALL their differences are beautiful.

 

[c.cloudwalker]

People in ALL their differences are beautiful.

This is such a basic truth of photography. Not to mention this girl is very nice looking anyway. She doesn't need anybody's help in that regard.

But she is young and she may get overly impressed, in the wrong way, by stupid comments from all farts.





PS = Maybe she can even become my intern someday...

 

[twocolor]

People in ALL their differences are beautiful.

This is such a basic truth of photography. Not to mention this girl is very nice looking anyway. She doesn't need anybody's help in that regard.

But she is young and she may get overly impressed, in the wrong way, by stupid comments from all farts.


PS = Maybe she can even become my intern someday...

Thank You Cloudwalker, I truly appreciate your comment!!!!

 

[c.cloudwalker]

...erly impressed, in the wrong way, by stupid comments from all farts.

...ern someday...

:lmao: My last post needs a translation. All farts was meant to say old farts.

And if she is interested in becoming MY intern someday, she should start learning French.

 

[c.cloudwalker]

Thank You Cloudwalker, I truly appreciate your comment!!!!

It was not meant to just please you. The day we have a MacDonald world is the day I check out...

 

[The_Traveler]

Sorry, I didn't make any value judgement about her looks.
She is a young person, without wrinkles or blemishes and a fine clear complexion.
She does have ugly colored nailpolish that pops up to draw the eye.

It isn't a criticism of her - except for the color of her polish.
Perhaps it should have been phrased as a critique of your judgement in setting up the pictures.

My initial response to apologize to her for the wording was quickly damped by cloudmaker jumping in to call me an old fart - and you supporting this response.
I hope that your intern reads this and takes the critique as it was meant - truthful and not judgmental about her but the pictures.

 

[twocolor]

Sorry, I didn't make any value judgement about her looks.
She is a young person, without wrinkles or blemishes and a fine clear complexion.
She does have ugly colored nailpolish that pops up to draw the eye.

It isn't a criticism of her - except for the color of her polish.
Perhaps it should have been phrased as a critique of your judgement in setting up the pictures.

My initial response to apologize to her for the wording was quickly damped by cloudmaker jumping in to call me an old fart - and you supporting this response.
I hope that your intern reads this and takes the critique as it was meant - truthful and not judgmental about her but the pictures.

what about the comment about her "rather little girl hands" or her lack of "character or interest in her face." I would call that a blatant criticism of her.

My comment in support of cloudmaker wasn't about calling you an old fart, it was in support of her standing up for MY comments and for validating my concerns expressed to you. I do think you owe my Intern an apology . . .

 

[The_Traveler]

what about the comment about her "rather little girl hands" or her lack of "character or interest in her face." I would call that a blatant criticism of her.

My comment in support of cloudmaker wasn't about calling you an old fart, it was in support of her standing up for MY comments and for validating my concerns expressed to you. I do think you owe my Intern an apology . . .

She does have the hands of a young person and her face is unlined and unblemished - exactly the opposite of what we expect when someone says a face has 'character' or is 'interesting.'
She has a young woman's face, which is as it should be, unmarked by the hardships and exigencies of life.

You are trying to make a truthful response into something hurtful and to make me a rotten, rude brute because I was expecting a professional photographer to be reading and responding.

Perhaps if you had mentioned that she would have been reading these responses, I might have phrased my answers more clearly and in a more palatable way but since you didn't, I stated what I thought as clearly and obviously as possible.

But not to worry, I shall avoid your posts in the future; certainly a happy result for both you and me.