ncphotographer
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Hi! I'm new to the forums- I went searching because I would like the advice of other pros, please.
I recently invited another photographer who is thinking about going pro to come along and get some experience at a wedding. We happen to be friends and I wanted them to get a feel for whether or not they were really wanting to do it; additionally I thought it would be a good way to have a second shooter around. Their facebook status and twitter updates were all about being excited about being asked to second shoot- although when the day of the wedding came, it was a mess.
When I told them that the standard SS rules would apply to the photographs taken that day (can use them in print but not on a website) they flipped out. Since I hadn't had them sign a contract (I made the error of not thinking it was necessary since we were friends) and for the sake of the friendship, I let it go, because there really was no legal way I could enforce it, and basically my only recourse was to determine to never ask them to shoot with me again. I am not sure how someone could agree to second shoot without understanding what it means to be a second shooter, but maybe that's just me. I've shot as a second shooter plenty of times and I don't throw a fit that I'm not using the photos on my website. It's always been a valuable learning experience, and I'm happy to leave it at that.
Sure enough, they posted photos of the wedding on their blog, etc. and I just feel like it's so unprofessional that it makes me want to cry. Not the image that I want for my business AT ALL.
Not only that, now the Bride is emailing me, only one week after the wedding, because she saw the photos that my friend posted on facebook and their blog, and wants to know if she can see more of the photos now, because she doesn't want to wait.
How do I indicate to the bride (without sounding rude) that with 1200 photos to go through, it will take longer than a week? When she hired me, it's in the contract that the photos will be ready no later than 4 weeks after the wedding date. I just don't know how to word that professional images are in no way related to anything seen on Facebook, and she needs to be patient.
I could use some advice. And please, don't beat me up- I'm doing that enough for everyone. It's a crappy lesson to learn, but I'm happy I've learned it now, even if it is painful and terribly embarrassing.
I recently invited another photographer who is thinking about going pro to come along and get some experience at a wedding. We happen to be friends and I wanted them to get a feel for whether or not they were really wanting to do it; additionally I thought it would be a good way to have a second shooter around. Their facebook status and twitter updates were all about being excited about being asked to second shoot- although when the day of the wedding came, it was a mess.
When I told them that the standard SS rules would apply to the photographs taken that day (can use them in print but not on a website) they flipped out. Since I hadn't had them sign a contract (I made the error of not thinking it was necessary since we were friends) and for the sake of the friendship, I let it go, because there really was no legal way I could enforce it, and basically my only recourse was to determine to never ask them to shoot with me again. I am not sure how someone could agree to second shoot without understanding what it means to be a second shooter, but maybe that's just me. I've shot as a second shooter plenty of times and I don't throw a fit that I'm not using the photos on my website. It's always been a valuable learning experience, and I'm happy to leave it at that.
Sure enough, they posted photos of the wedding on their blog, etc. and I just feel like it's so unprofessional that it makes me want to cry. Not the image that I want for my business AT ALL.
Not only that, now the Bride is emailing me, only one week after the wedding, because she saw the photos that my friend posted on facebook and their blog, and wants to know if she can see more of the photos now, because she doesn't want to wait.
How do I indicate to the bride (without sounding rude) that with 1200 photos to go through, it will take longer than a week? When she hired me, it's in the contract that the photos will be ready no later than 4 weeks after the wedding date. I just don't know how to word that professional images are in no way related to anything seen on Facebook, and she needs to be patient.
I could use some advice. And please, don't beat me up- I'm doing that enough for everyone. It's a crappy lesson to learn, but I'm happy I've learned it now, even if it is painful and terribly embarrassing.