Rebekah5280
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I have a situation and I need some advice/clarification/help!
I had a local "model" contact me a while back and she wanted to book me for a session because she had an opportunity to work with a make-up artist who was flown into our small town. I booked her because she begged, her normal photographer was booked and so she found me. I'm more of a family photographer, not so much into working with "professional" models (mostly because of this situation, but also because I LOVE working with babies, toddlers, and kids).
She jerked me around all day the day of the photoshoot and just when I was going to give up on her even getting pictures done at all, she and her make-up artist finally showed up. We worked two locations and I was shooting for 4 hours.
The "model" was 15yrs old (I thought she was 17), and her mom was with her during the entire photoshoot. The make-up artist was volunteering his time for the rights to use the pictures for promotional reasons. NO paperwork was completed or signed at the photoshoot. Since the photoshoot, I have had a hard-time getting ahold of my model (because she doesn't want to pay the modest $200's for my costs/babysitter/proof prints ect) and the make-up artist is bugging me for the pictures. I explained to him that I was not going to be giving him any pictures, and that he would have to get them from my model, and that he would have to wait for her/her gaurdian to get them from me and sign my agreement/consent ect..
Fast forward two months.. No payment, I still have the pictures. I had posted a couple of the pictures on my Facebook page (as a preview) and my model and Make-up artist have tagged themselves and are using them on their facebook pages. I don't care about that. No biggie. At this point I figure I'll never see any money. I will not be selling the images, but I do have them in my portfolio on my Facebook business page. I'm setting up another site and I want to know what my rights are with these pictures of this minor model. I have no written agreements or consents of any kind. The pictures are NOT revealing, although her mom, make-up artist and her, wanted and did a lot of pin-uppy/sexy poses (so what if I sound like a square.. I've decided I'm a child photographer, as in innocent toddlers being goofy and having fun.. NOT teenage girls trying to look like the are older than they are). There are a few pictures that turned out cute and I wouldn't mind using more for my Senior picture examples on my business pages.
So I guess my question is ~ can I post these pictures/use them in my portfolio? She is a minor, I have no written consent, no money has been exchanged at this point. Is it safe to assume that the pictures belong to me and therefore are mine to do what I please? Again, I am not going to sell or publish them, just maybe use them in my portfolio.
Sorry if this is wordy, but I have never found myself in this position before. I have learned my lesson though and I get paperwork/consents ect filled out at the beginning of my photoshoots. So if nothing else, this was a lesson learned. :\
I had a local "model" contact me a while back and she wanted to book me for a session because she had an opportunity to work with a make-up artist who was flown into our small town. I booked her because she begged, her normal photographer was booked and so she found me. I'm more of a family photographer, not so much into working with "professional" models (mostly because of this situation, but also because I LOVE working with babies, toddlers, and kids).
She jerked me around all day the day of the photoshoot and just when I was going to give up on her even getting pictures done at all, she and her make-up artist finally showed up. We worked two locations and I was shooting for 4 hours.
The "model" was 15yrs old (I thought she was 17), and her mom was with her during the entire photoshoot. The make-up artist was volunteering his time for the rights to use the pictures for promotional reasons. NO paperwork was completed or signed at the photoshoot. Since the photoshoot, I have had a hard-time getting ahold of my model (because she doesn't want to pay the modest $200's for my costs/babysitter/proof prints ect) and the make-up artist is bugging me for the pictures. I explained to him that I was not going to be giving him any pictures, and that he would have to get them from my model, and that he would have to wait for her/her gaurdian to get them from me and sign my agreement/consent ect..
Fast forward two months.. No payment, I still have the pictures. I had posted a couple of the pictures on my Facebook page (as a preview) and my model and Make-up artist have tagged themselves and are using them on their facebook pages. I don't care about that. No biggie. At this point I figure I'll never see any money. I will not be selling the images, but I do have them in my portfolio on my Facebook business page. I'm setting up another site and I want to know what my rights are with these pictures of this minor model. I have no written agreements or consents of any kind. The pictures are NOT revealing, although her mom, make-up artist and her, wanted and did a lot of pin-uppy/sexy poses (so what if I sound like a square.. I've decided I'm a child photographer, as in innocent toddlers being goofy and having fun.. NOT teenage girls trying to look like the are older than they are). There are a few pictures that turned out cute and I wouldn't mind using more for my Senior picture examples on my business pages.
So I guess my question is ~ can I post these pictures/use them in my portfolio? She is a minor, I have no written consent, no money has been exchanged at this point. Is it safe to assume that the pictures belong to me and therefore are mine to do what I please? Again, I am not going to sell or publish them, just maybe use them in my portfolio.
Sorry if this is wordy, but I have never found myself in this position before. I have learned my lesson though and I get paperwork/consents ect filled out at the beginning of my photoshoots. So if nothing else, this was a lesson learned. :\