NEX 7 at 3200iso

[o hey tyler]

Likewise, this is the only thing you can "brag" about! See how that's funny? See how they're both totally irrelevant?

It doesn't change the fact that if you picked up my camera, and had the same lights that I had, you could not take as good of a photo as I can, because you don't understand photography!

Just sayin'.

If you really understand photography, you wouldn't start a nonsense argument. You wouldn't troll around the forum.

If I use your camera and your set-up, I probably wouldn't be able to create a photo as good as yours. But I will do better taking more impressive photo with a Sony camera than using a Canon with outdated sensor.
It's is not about the skills, it's about the photographer. It seems to me you are still on the amateur level. There are things that you don't understand.

Hilarious.

It's not about the skills? It's about the photographer? Guess what! NEWSFLASH. The photographer is the ONE WITH THE SKILLS! You really are thick aren't you?

What you fail to understand is that actual PHOTOGRAPHIC, and ARTISTIC KNOWLEDGE is required to use a camera of any type, and use it well. You are so caught up in the "tech" of the camera, that you can't get past it. You're a 18 year old kid with no working experience behind a camera.

The reason that ALL you do is talk about Sony products and how you think that they are "better" than other brands, but you can't take a photo to save your life. You don't even post photos anymore, because the C&C you received was wildly negative and I would guess that you don't have a thick enough skin to stomach it.

I also find it funny that someone who freely admits to "not being able to create a photo as good as mine" is qualified to determine whether or not I am an amateur. I've seen your one wedding photo, I've seen your "boudoir." You might just want to stop talking.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Here is a link to a georgeous shot with a Sony...since this has diminished to camera wars and all...:mrgreen:

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[o hey tyler]

Here is a link to a georgeous shot with a Sony...since this has diminished to camera wars and all...:mrgreen:

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Wow, that clipped red channel is beautiful.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

No idea why that's a problem but it's a good example of why too much weight is given to such things when an image is contrary to the histogram.

 

[argieramos]

Hilarious.

It's not about the skills? It's about the photographer? Guess what! NEWSFLASH. The photographer is the ONE WITH THE SKILLS! You really are thick aren't you?

What you fail to understand is that actual PHOTOGRAPHIC, and ARTISTIC KNOWLEDGE is required to use a camera of any type, and use it well. You are so caught up in the "tech" of the camera, that you can't get past it. You're a 18 year old kid with no working experience behind a camera.

The reason that ALL you do is talk about Sony products and how you think that they are "better" than other brands, but you can't take a photo to save your life. You don't even post photos anymore, because the C&C you received was wildly negative and I would guess that you don't have a thick enough skin to stomach it.

I also find it funny that someone who freely admits to "not being able to create a photo as good as mine" is qualified to determine whether or not I am an amateur. I've seen your one wedding photo, I've seen your "boudoir." You might just want to stop talking.

Typo. I will correct it.
"We are not talking about the skills in this thread, we are talking about the camera. "

So yea, you are still on an amateur level. A real professional wouldn't diss a camera. They know better that cameras is just merely a tool. That is the thing you don't understand. You don't do anything here but bashing Sony in Sony thread. Obviously, you don't know better. I don't need to be a Pro to see that. If you think you are a Pro, start acting like one.

I don't post anything new because it's way too cold outside. I don't like to take pictures when it's cold. But i have pictures on my gallery. The bride picture that I posted recieved wildly negative feedback you said? You might wanna check that out again buddy

BTW, don't act like you are the best photographer. You're not even close to your bff Gary.

 

[argieramos]

You will do better in photography with a camera that is not a Canon. Canon sensors are way outdated and behind in today's standard. I already proven that claim with lots of evidence

 

[o hey tyler]

Hilarious.

It's not about the skills? It's about the photographer? Guess what! NEWSFLASH. The photographer is the ONE WITH THE SKILLS! You really are thick aren't you?

What you fail to understand is that actual PHOTOGRAPHIC, and ARTISTIC KNOWLEDGE is required to use a camera of any type, and use it well. You are so caught up in the "tech" of the camera, that you can't get past it. You're a 18 year old kid with no working experience behind a camera.

The reason that ALL you do is talk about Sony products and how you think that they are "better" than other brands, but you can't take a photo to save your life. You don't even post photos anymore, because the C&C you received was wildly negative and I would guess that you don't have a thick enough skin to stomach it.

I also find it funny that someone who freely admits to "not being able to create a photo as good as mine" is qualified to determine whether or not I am an amateur. I've seen your one wedding photo, I've seen your "boudoir." You might just want to stop talking.

Typo. I will correct it.
"We are not talking about the skills in this thread, we are talking about the camera. "

So yea, you are still on an amateur level. A real professional wouldn't diss a camera. They know better that cameras is just merely a tool. That is the thing you don't understand. You don't do anything here but bashing Sony in Sony thread. Obviously, you don't know better

BTW, don't act like you are the best photographer. You're not even close to your bff Gary.

I'm not acting like I'm the "best photographer." I know I am far from it. I'm ASSERTING that I am a better photographer than YOU, and that I can take better pictures than you with what you deem "inferior" equipment. Which is true. YOU are an amateur, so amateur that you took down the photos that you posted for C&C. So amateur that you can't even offer C&C.

It doesn't even matter if you edited your post. Without skills, there are no good photos. Sorry, that's the way it is. I don't expect you to understand that, because you have the mental aptitude of a 3rd grader.

 

[mjhoward]

You will do better in photography with a camera that is not a Canon. Canon sensors are way outdated and behind in today's standard. I already proven that claim with lots of evidence

What happens in a couple of months when you're no longer able to use that excuse?

 

[belial]

If you really understand photography, you wouldn't start a nonsense argument. You wouldn't troll around the forum.

If I use your camera and your set-up, I probably wouldn't be able to create a photo as good as yours. But I will do better taking more impressive photo with a Sony camera than using a Canon with outdated sensor.
It's is not about the skills, it's about the photographer. It seems to me you are still on the amateur level. There are things that you don't understand.

Sensor isn't necessarily the most important thing. Besides. The 7d is a 3 year old camera due for an update. Not a fair comparison rating it alongside something brand new

 

[belial]

You will do better in photography with a camera that is not a Canon. Canon sensors are way outdated and behind in today's standard. I already proven that claim with lots of evidence

The sensors of 5 years ago IMO were good enough. Who cares which camera has more overkill?

 

[SJGordon]

So yea, you are still on an amateur level. A real professional wouldn't diss a camera. They know better that cameras is just merely a tool.

So where does that put you? So far I see you do nothing but bash Canon.

I don't post anything new because it's way too cold outside. I don't like to take pictures when it's cold.

What? Dude it has been one of the mildest winters on record for the entire Midwest. I am a couple hours north of you and can assure you that is a BS excuse.


Before you get your knickers in a twist let me explain where I am coming from overall. What camera system do I use? Sony. Why? Because I shot Minolta for decades before going digital and have a big camera bag of quality Minolta lenses. If I had shot either Canon or Nikon before and had as many good lenses as I do, then I would have stuck with the brand. As it is, Sony delivers everything I want and need and does it as well as either Canon, Nikon, or any other camera system could. If I was shooting strictly Sports for a living, I wouldn't have been shooting Minolta to begin with... Canon has pretty well owned that category for a LONG time. I have seen some of O Hey Tyler's photos he has posted. Regardless of camera, sensor, format (FF, crop, point-n-shoot, cell phone, etc...) whatever; he would be able to turn out a quality photo. The other side of that coin is that I know some shooters that have the financial means to take some really big crappy snapshots with a Nikon D3s and another that does the same with a Canon EOS 1D. I know if I gave them a cutting edge Hasselblad H4D-60 they would turn out some really, really big crappy snapshots.

You assert that Canon sensors are out of date and therefore junk. Ever see a print from a 90+ year old Kodak 1A AUTOGRAPH using modern film? Can't get much older tech that that and frankly I have only seen a few shots from ANY digital system that will come close to the feeling and look of that old tech. Age really means squat if the camera does what you need it to do, and you know haw to actually USE it.

 

[o hey tyler]

So yea, you are still on an amateur level. A real professional wouldn't diss a camera. They know better that cameras is just merely a tool.

So where does that put you? So far I see you do nothing but bash Canon.

I don't post anything new because it's way too cold outside. I don't like to take pictures when it's cold.

What? Dude it has been one of the mildest winters on record for the entire Midwest. I am a couple hours north of you and can assure you that is a BS excuse.


Before you get your knickers in a twist let me explain where I am coming from overall. What camera system do I use? Sony. Why? Because I shot Minolta for decades before going digital and have a big camera bag of quality Minolta lenses. If I had shot either Canon or Nikon before and had as many good lenses as I do, then I would have stuck with the brand. As it is, Sony delivers everything I want and need and does it as well as either Canon, Nikon, or any other camera system could. If I was shooting strictly Sports for a living, I wouldn't have been shooting Minolta to begin with... Canon has pretty well owned that category for a LONG time. I have seen some of O Hey Tyler's photos he has posted. Regardless of camera, sensor, format (FF, crop, point-n-shoot, cell phone, etc...) whatever; he would be able to turn out a quality photo. The other side of that coin is that I know some shooters that have the financial means to take some really big crappy snapshots with a Nikon D3s and another that does the same with a Canon EOS 1D. I know if I gave them a cutting edge Hasselblad H4D-60 they would turn out some really, really big crappy snapshots.

You assert that Canon sensors are out of date and therefore junk. Ever see a print from a 90+ year old Kodak 1A AUTOGRAPH using modern film? Can't get much older tech that that and frankly I have only seen a few shots from ANY digital system that will come close to the feeling and look of that old tech. Age really means squat if the camera does what you need it to do, and you know haw to actually USE it.

That's why I often shoot with a 5Dmk1 from 2006... It still produces high quality images... and the filesize isn't 21 megapixels so they don't take forever to download. But like you said, Camera tech means nothing unless you know how to use it.

Nice post, SJ.

 

[belial]

Wow you didn't actually ignore me. I'm flattered.
how about the old Nex-3 still beating the newer T3i? Canon sensor is really left behind. lol

The t3i wasn't supposed to be a new sensor. It was a recycling of older tech

 

[cosmonaut]

My computer downloads my Sony 24mpix files just as quick as files from my 12mpix Olympus. I don't shoot a ton of pictures anyway. If one knows what their doing there's no need to spray and pray.

 

[o hey tyler]

My computer downloads my Sony 24mpix files just as quick as files from my 12mpix Olympus. I don't shoot a ton of pictures anyway. If one knows what their doing there's no need to spray and pray.

Yes, I don't doubt that if the memory cards are the same size that they'll download files at the same rate. But when I am adding them to my LR catalog and rendering standard previews, my 5D1 is MUCH FASTER than rendering of 5D2 files (2x as fast due to double the resolution on the 5D2). There's definitely a marked difference.