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charlie76 · Jul 16, 2012

What? I strongly disagree

JAC526 · Jul 16, 2012

Vendetta much?

pixmedic · Jul 16, 2012

and the countdown to thread-lock begins...5...4....3...2....1....

rexbobcat · Jul 16, 2012

I don't like too many of the 'naturally' processed HDRs. It just kind of defeats the purpose...

It kind of reminds me of having an unprocessed RAW image. I'm sure there are instances where HDR really does help the photograph, but composites from programs just...don't appeal to me unless they're tone mapped.

I do like the manually masked HDR photos though. They look like legit out of camera photographs.

I'm to the point that I don't understand why we have this forum. I mean, of HDR is just compositing 3 photographs and adjusting curves then...how is that a standalone process from normal PP...

rexbobcat · Jul 16, 2012

I know what HDR is. It's a very simple technical concept, but unfortunately I don't find most of the 'authentic' stuff to be very aesthetically pleasing, because much of the time it ends up looking like an unprocessed RAW file like your first edit. And then in your second edit it appears on my screen that the highlights are blown out.

I don't understand how I can give my opinion and I'm lashed out at because I have no business being here...but then again you're the same guy who sent me this PM...

How are you not banned, dude. Because the PM wasn't reported by antone who saw it. Moderators don't have any special access to the PM system. Moderator access to the PM system is the same as regular members access. That's why it called a Private Message.
Moderators don't see every post, but when you report a post or a PM, we see that report in a forum section regular members don't see. Moderators check that report forum for new reports off and on all day long.

You're like, 50 (Am I being generous?) freaking years old and you're basically doing the equivalent of sticking your tongue out and saying "so are you but what am I?"

You're so damn petty. Give it up.

o hey tyler · Jul 16, 2012

rexbobcat said:
I know what HDR is. It's a very simple technical concept, but unfortunately I don't find most of the 'authentic' stuff to be very aesthetically pleasing, because much of the time it ends up looking like an unprocessed RAW file like your first edit. And then in your second edit it appears on my screen that the highlights are blown out.

I don't understand how I can give my opinion and I'm lashes at because I have no business being here...but then again you're the same guy who sent me this PM...

How are you not banned, dude?

You like, 50 freaking years old and you're basically doing the equivalent of sticking your tongue out and saying "so are you but what am I?"

You're so damn petty. Give it up.

Oh wow.

vipgraphx · Jul 17, 2012

WOW just WOW, I can't believe this past week has gotten so out of control over HDR.

Alls I can say is I hope there is light at the end of this tunnel.

I see Bynx's point on the whole subject however I really think he would catch more fly's with honey (honey being a better choice of words). In his defense though this forum has picked up quite a few new members these past months and they ask for critiques and while I am a big fan of trying not only saying the bad but, also saying the good.....uuummm others ideals for critique is straight to the point. Sometimes the truth hearts!!

There also has been a lot of single image photos that keep popping up with the label as "HDR" which they are not they are Fake of Faux HDR. It does kinda get annoying that folks want to call it HDR and not another
appropriate name such as single image tone mapped.

The start to a good HDR is having the correct exposures you need to merge them. The rest is all in the processing. What Bynx opinion on this is that if you can not get your processing down and screw it up than why bother?

I on the other hand know that we all have to start somewhere BUT, you should also be able to progress relatively fast with all the help on here and youtube. IF you decide to post pictures that are not that great processed you should be able to take the truth thrown back at you and use that to get better and better.

Bynx was the same way with me when I first posted here. I remember one thread that I felt that he called me out and I got I admit I got my pannies in a bunch and went and looked at his flickr site and called him on
many of his pictures. Well I found some pretty sorry ones and some really really good ones.

I tell you what though...after that thread I wanted so much to show that I was not small fry and I was capable of producing some great HDR's. I honestly felt that I have accomplished my goals and have proven it time and time again.

Now I will do what I want and if someone does not like it cool....no sweat off my back because I have the tools and knowledge to process many styles of HDR from Photo Realistic to Cartoony over cooked images. No one can take that away from me!!!

But, I did not give up and I did not give in, this forum made me stronger!!!!!!

My advice to the newer members is you might think your photos are excellent now but, they are not as good as they will be if you take the time to learn and grow. I would like to see how many of you progress in a few months.........You will look back at some of your first HDR's and say...I actually stood up for this crap:banghead: what was I thinking back then.

Bynx--- fight for what you believe in but, choose kinder words!!!!

manaheim · Jul 17, 2012

Bynx said:
jdsfighter said:

They consist of 3 exposures, but I guess I just like massively overcooking things.

Click to expand...

Thats ok, as long as you realize that using the 3 images is a waste of time considering where you end up and are not HDR any longer. Im sure you could get the same bad results from using just one image.

Wait a minute... YOU are telling HIM it's not an HDR? Or somehow not within some given ruleset of HDR?

I hereby revoke your license to complain when I criticize people's methods and choices in the space of higher dynamic range photography.

unpopular · Jul 17, 2012

Too long to read. But I can pretty much guarantee whatever it is, I don't agree with Bynx.

unpopular · Jul 17, 2012

http://tjcnyc.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/nestle-mob.jpg

manaheim · Jul 17, 2012

Bynx, you attack ME all the time... and for something as simple as saying "Gee, I don't think you got much from running this through an HDR process. Honestly, you could have gotten this with one exposure."

I say that and you absolutely go off on me.

IMO, you're on some seriously thin ice with this line of argument.

And you started off this thread questioning someone else's interpretation of what is and is not an HDR... which, btw, I'll remind you that HDR stands for HIGH dynamic range... that term HIGH is both relative and arbitrary. Therefore, there's really no clear way to define it and you're instantly on poor footing the second you question it.

unpopular · Jul 17, 2012

effing a. i thought i was special. Is there anyone here who Bynx hasn't attacked?

manaheim · Jul 17, 2012

Wow. The more I read the more I chuckle.

People come to TPF to learn about and discuss photography... not just how to tone-map things. Photography has a lot of other elements, but the impression I've had for quite some time from Bynx is that as long as it's HDR and it's HDR done well, it's a great image. MY opinion is that particular viewpoint is rubbish.

Perhaps Bynx disagrees, and that's totally fine. The difference is I don't attack the dude when he disagrees with me. (or send nasty PMs... :lol:

wow on that one. Just wow.)

Anyway, I imagine I'll get skewered so I'll go quiet and let Bynx have his way with me.

:lol:

unpopular · Jul 17, 2012

I always thought it was his own neighborhood and he was just bragging.

BlueMeanieTSi · Jul 17, 2012

By definition you don't like HDR you like Tonemapping.

However as right as I think Bynx is about the core concepts of HDR I find it amusing you're complaining about personal attacks while telling people they have their heads up their ass and they don't get it.