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[David Dvir]

WOAH!!!! please please rethink that comment!!!

You WILL lose serious megapixels if you use a DX on a FX body. Not acceptable. Cropping the sensor will turn your 12MP camera into a 5.6 MP camera or so. I'm not going to go into the math but yes your 105 will not work with the D700. Everyone has mentioned so many things, like the D80 being your backup and still using it, but you mentioned that you're going to have someone else shoot it mostly. So I didn't consider that you're thinking of using it as well. Either way, you need to be aware that the D700 will not be worth more than a point and shoot if you're tossing DX lenses on it. Especially for things like sports where you're going to likely want to crop in tight on some images.

I don't see why the D7000 is not what you're going. You already have SD cards... you've already got the DX lenses you like...

Have you considered a good card reader $100, all new good quality CF cards between $100-$400 each... on top of the cost of a new camera and lens kit..? I think that unless that's what you've been thinking and understand the investment, you should really go with the D7000.

 

[KAikens318]

WOAH!!!! please please rethink that comment!!!

You WILL lose serious megapixels if you use a DX on a FX body. Not acceptable. Cropping the sensor will turn your 12MP camera into a 5.6 MP camera or so. I'm not going to go into the math but yes your 105 will not work with the D700. Everyone has mentioned so many things, like the D80 being your backup and still using it, but you mentioned that you're going to have someone else shoot it mostly. So I didn't consider that you're thinking of using it as well. Either way, you need to be aware that the D700 will not be worth more than a point and shoot if you're tossing DX lenses on it. Especially for things like sports where you're going to likely want to crop in tight on some images.

I don't see why the D7000 is not what you're going. You already have SD cards... you've already got the DX lenses you like...

Have you considered a good card reader $100, all new good quality CF cards between $100-$400 each... on top of the cost of a new camera and lens kit..? I think that unless that's what you've been thinking and understand the investment, you should really go with the D7000.

So many conflicting things. Lol. I was going for the D7000 until they had said that, but if I have to get new memory cards, new lenses, it just wouldn't be worth it to me. Thank you for your input.

 

[KmH]

WOAH!!!! please please rethink that comment!!!

You WILL lose serious megapixels if you use a DX on a FX body. Not acceptable. Cropping the sensor will turn your 12MP camera into a 5.6 MP camera or so.

I don't need to re-think that.

Maybe I don't get it. I refer you to page 60 of the D700 users manual. http://www.nikonusa.com/pdf/manuals/noprint/D700_noprinten.pdf

It seems to clearly show the difference between the auto crop for DX and the actual DX image circle.

As I said you can use much more than 5.6 MP of the D700 image sensor if Auto DX Crop is turned off. Yes, the image will not use the entire sensor and will have a vignette to on degree or another.

 

[David Dvir]

Keith,

I apologize if it seemed like I was calling you a liar. But the OP seemed to think that the image "may" be OK for use. I don't think when purchasing an FX camera most of us would consider DX lenses acceptable. I do shoot sometimes with a DX lens on my FX body, however typically when that look is desired. For instance I have cut the hood off of the Fisheye which is a DX and now I get an awesome circle of fishiness when I shoot.

But having someone think that they can work with these lenses to me is wrong. the vignette is very harsh, and if you want an image with aspect ratio 2:3, then you're going to have to crop down to something around 6MP. To me this is unacceptable.

Again I apologize for the urgency in my tone, I just felt strongly that the OP needs to really understand what they'd be getting into.

 

[KmH]

Fair enough David. The DX image circle is actually variable in size depending on the lens being used.

The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

 

[KAikens318]

Fair enough David. The DX image circle is actually variable in size depending on the lens being used.

The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

 

[mrshaleyberg]

I have a D700 and I love it. It's a heavy duty monster! But not as huge as the any of the D3s..They're even bigger monsters! The full frame really makes a huge difference. I would get the D700, but then again...I would also want to wait to see what's coming out to replace the D300 and D700..I should have waited! But I'm impatient sometimes! Especially when it comes to new camera stuff! lol

 

[RobWyse]

Fair enough David. The DX image circle is actually variable in size depending on the lens being used.

The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

Using a camera in manual mode doesn't mean you know how it, and the lenses you have, work. Aperture and shutter speed, and how they work are just the absolute tip of the iceberg when it comes to how things work in photography.

 

[KAikens318]

Fair enough David. The DX image circle is actually variable in size depending on the lens being used.

The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

Using a camera in manual mode doesn't mean you know how it, and the lenses you have, work. Aperture and shutter speed, and how they work are just the absolute tip of the iceberg when it comes to how things work in photography.

I know about angles, colors, repetition, lighting, exposure, when to tilt, when not to tilt, what to focus on, different angles for different body types. I know what i am doing to a degree. Granted I am nowhere close to an expert, but I am far more knowledgeable than when I first got this camera because I have studied. I have learned from the criticism I get on this forum, I have learned from my mistakes. I know about white balance, and now I know to meter for the wedding dress and not the tuxes or else you get blown out highlights. I am not saying I know it all by any means but his response struck me as somewhat pompous and saying that I had no idea what I was doing. I was just asking about a camera upgrade, and got some great advice and have now settled on the D7000. I am not a know it all, but I have done my fair share of studying and put hard work into this. I didn't just pick up a camera and go, oh ok, I am a professional now!

 

[RobWyse]

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

Using a camera in manual mode doesn't mean you know how it, and the lenses you have, work. Aperture and shutter speed, and how they work are just the absolute tip of the iceberg when it comes to how things work in photography.

I know about angles, colors, repetition, lighting, exposure, when to tilt, when not to tilt, what to focus on, different angles for different body types. I know what i am doing to a degree. Granted I am nowhere close to an expert, but I am far more knowledgeable than when I first got this camera because I have studied. I have learned from the criticism I get on this forum, I have learned from my mistakes. I know about white balance, and now I know to meter for the wedding dress and not the tuxes or else you get blown out highlights. I am not saying I know it all by any means but his response struck me as somewhat pompous and saying that I had no idea what I was doing. I was just asking about a camera upgrade, and got some great advice and have now settled on the D7000. I am not a know it all, but I have done my fair share of studying and put hard work into this. I didn't just pick up a camera and go, oh ok, I am a professional now!

So you know composition and how to use the general functions of your camera. But do you know how the lenses you have work? Do you know how the parts of the camera work? Most importantly, do you know how the lenses work with the parts of the camera? This is the stuff that KmH was referring to (or so it seems to me). This is the stuff you have to know, especially when you're thinking of getting a new camera. Not much good getting something only to realise most of your currently owned gear won't work as you want it to, or to find that it doesn't suit your needs.

 

[KmH]

........The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

I didn't say you don't know how to use your camera. Try re-reading what I wrote.

Using manual mode doesn't mean knowing how, and why it works.

 

[KAikens318]

........The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade.

You can't be an artist if you don't know what tool to use and how to use it, to create your artistic vision.

I know how to use my camera just fine actually...I only shoot in manual so that I have to know how to use the tools that I have instead of going the easy way and using an automatic setting. Don't judge what you don't know.

I didn't say you don't know how to use your camera. Try re-reading what I wrote.

Using manual mode doesn't mean knowing how, and why it works.

"The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade" is pretty clear...

To a degree though, yes it does. If you are shooting in manual mode and adjusting all the settings yourself and coming out with photos that are properly exposed, focused, with the white balance as it should be, you either know how to use the camera or you are really lucky.

However....I will not disagree anymore because I don't want to fill this thread with drama. Thank you so much to everyone that has helped me select my new camera, I cannot wait to get the D7000 and play with all the settings it has to offer. A big :thumbup: to everyone that gave constructive input! :hug::

 

[RobWyse]

"The problem is the OP doesn't know how the tools they have now work, let alone what will work if they upgrade" is pretty clear...

To a degree though, yes it does. If you are shooting in manual mode and adjusting all the settings yourself and coming out with photos that are properly exposed, focused, with the white balance as it should be, you either know how to use the camera or you are really lucky.

However....I will not disagree anymore because I don't want to fill this thread with drama. Thank you so much to everyone that has helped me select my new camera, I cannot wait to get the D7000 and play with all the settings it has to offer. A big :thumbup: to everyone that gave constructive input! :hug::

I enlarged the key part of the phrase. Knowing how the tools work is not the same as knowing how to use the tool. I know how to use this laptop I'm on, but I certainly have no bloody clue how it works, there's just too much complicated stuff happening that means nothing to me because I don't study or work in computing.

 

[Bram]

Well kudos to the OP for actually being able to pick the camera she wanted without any hastle. :thumbup: