NSFW: What exactly are the laws regarding shooting teens nude?

[unpopular]

^^ perfectly said.

 

[Trever1t]

I have a question. I am not am not advocating nude photography of minors but I do have a question for anyone who says don't do it:

Have you never seen a photo of a naked baby at the beach, tub, whatever?
At what age does that become taboo? Too say that noone should be photographed under the age of 18 would put most every parent in jail, no?

In Europe and other countries I have traveled, seeing a topless baby, girl, woman is no cause for alarm or even draw attention from other men in the area, it's 'normal'. Obviously one's cultural conditioning dictate's what is and isn't sexually explicit. Surely the American gov't has a legally concise definition of what is considered porn...

 

[jake337]

How old is 15, really?

Either way, my opinion (morally) is that I have no problems with it, as long as everyone involved is fine and dandy.

Everyone doesn't have a say......the child depending on their age is just being told to do something.

Re-watch some classic Dave.....

 

[pixmedic]

I have a question. I am not am not advocating nude photography of minors but I do have a question for anyone who says don't do it:

Have you never seen a photo of a naked baby at the beach, tub, whatever?
At what age does that become taboo? Too say that noone should be photographed under the age of 18 would put most every parent in jail, no?

In Europe and other countries I have traveled, seeing a topless baby, girl, woman is no cause for alarm or even draw attention from other men in the area, it's 'normal'. Obviously one's cultural conditioning dictate's what is and isn't sexually explicit. Surely the American gov't has a legally concise definition of what is considered porn...

that is an excellent point. but even from a legal standpoint here in the united states, it is still a very grey area. And litigation being the way it is even a seemingly "innocent" picture can easily be taken out of context and incur the wrath of conservative legal action. It never ceases to amaze me, the duality of this country concerning sex, almost to the point of Hypocrisy. If sex and alcohol weren't so demonized here, I don't think we would have quite as many problems. Im not advocating nude teens or anything, but nudity is viewed on such a more conservative level here than it is in europe, and yet you can see it on almost every cable channel. I dont get it.

 

[Tee]

OP: this is a topic that brings out personal opinion rather than the legalities. I've seen a 25 page thread on Model Mayhem about this and it boils down to this- seek out professional legal advice.

 

[mishele]

Sally Mann comes to mind w/ this topic. Some of her work I enjoy and some goes too far for me.

 

[slackercruster]

I have a question. I am not am not advocating nude photography of minors but I do have a question for anyone who says don't do it:

Have you never seen a photo of a naked baby at the beach, tub, whatever?
At what age does that become taboo? Too say that noone should be photographed under the age of 18 would put most every parent in jail, no?

In Europe and other countries I have traveled, seeing a topless baby, girl, woman is no cause for alarm or even draw attention from other men in the area, it's 'normal'. Obviously one's cultural conditioning dictate's what is and isn't sexually explicit. Surely the American gov't has a legally concise definition of what is considered porn...

Can't answer.

I guess it is just by custom of each region?

I was amazed how a Muslim lady was all covered up from head to foot at the airport and she had her cloak pulled open and was milking a baby with a big brown nipple. I'd figure the Muslims are so conservative they would rather show their face than their nip. But she would rather show her nip than her face?

That is what this thread is all about...'trying' to learn what we can about a blind subject.

 

[Tee]

That is what this thread is all about...'trying' to learn what we can about a blind subject.

You know, I really have NO interest in learning how to photograph underage models. Why would anyone want to learn about this so-called "blind" subject?

 

[Solarflare]

Americans are so easy to make fun of when it comes to things like nudity. Like this "Nipplegate" when some normal tv sender accidentaly showed a nipple. I couldnt believe it when I heard americans say about that "but think about the children" !

Err, what ? To children, this means absolutely nothing at all. They are the only people who are definitely NOT in any danger whatsoever there.

Its really crazy. Americans do wars of aggression, they have ten times more prisoners per population than the average country and one fourth of prisoners worldwide, they are a rich country that doesnt have a social state that fulfills the most basic demands of human rights, they spend as much on military as the rest of the world combined, they have the death penalty and use it a lot, preferably on black people, they do torture of the worst kind (waterboarding) and even kill people with it and still wont even admit it, and of course they also have the biggest porn industry worldwide.

And yet when something as innocent as a nipple is shown, something I wouldnt think twice about when I would, for example, see a mother feeding her baby in a public area, or would be at a nude beach, to americans its a national scandal. What. The. Frak.

Really, violence in all its forms is highly suppored by the USA. Anything that might have anything to do with affection ? Not so much.

About underaged, well personally I would say anything sexual is out of the question. But I know squat about the laws about it anyway.

 

[unpopular]

I think American culture is somewhat exaggerated by the media. Most people don't really care much about "nipslips"

 

[pixmedic]

Americans are so easy to make fun of when it comes to things like nudity. Like this "Nipplegate" when some normal tv sender accidentaly showed a nipple. I couldnt believe it when I heard americans say about that "but think about the children" !

Err, what ? To children, this means absolutely nothing at all. They are the only people who are definitely NOT in any danger whatsoever there.

Its really crazy. Americans do wars of aggression, they have ten times more prisoners per population than the average country and one fourth of prisoners worldwide, they are a rich country that doesnt have a social state that fulfills the most basic demands of human rights, they spend as much on military as the rest of the world combined, they have the death penalty and use it a lot, preferably on black people, they do torture of the worst kind (waterboarding) and even kill people with it and still wont even admit it, and of course they also have the biggest porn industry worldwide.

And yet when something as innocent as a nipple is shown, something I wouldnt think twice about when I would, for example, see a mother feeding her baby in a public area, or would be at a nude beach, to americans its a national scandal. What. The. Frak.

Really, violence in all its forms is highly suppored by the USA. Anything that might have anything to do with affection ? Not so much.

About underaged, well personally I would say anything sexual is out of the question. But I know squat about the laws about it anyway.

"they spend as much on military as the rest of the world combined, they have the death penalty and use it a lot, preferably on black people, they do torture of the worst kind (waterboarding) and even kill people with it and still wont even admit it, and of course they also have the biggest porn industry worldwide."

Hot Damn...thats why I love this FU^&ING country! im not sure about the black people part though, im pretty sure more white people have been executed in this country than any other race. and anyone living here that doesn't love it, well, nothing stopping them from heading somewhere else. also, we have plenty of nude resorts and beaches here. and war? maybe more recently sure. but apparently you are discounting everything before the last 75 years or so. I would say more people died in the tower of London in its last 10 years of use than in all executions of US history. but hey, let them eat cake. that's what I say. that and...Uneducated drivel.

 

[unpopular]

I believe the statistic is that black defendants found guilt of capital crimes are more likely to receive the death penalty. Furthermore, if the victim is white the chances that the convicted murderer will death penalty is much higher than if the victim was black, regardless of the race of the convicted.

 

[Solarflare]

I think American culture is somewhat exaggerated by the media. Most people don't really care much about "nipslips"

Yeah, probably.

 

[unpopular]

This kind of exaggeration is something Americans have become accustom to, outrage sells well and I think that Americans kind of put this "outrage face" when we talk about celebrity shenanigans, but it's not like we sit around and think about this stuff all day - I don't think most people are all that preoccupied or even interested, it's more something to connect us; something to fill the small talk, you know. But it must seem really strange from the outside, with all this goofy stuff on the front pages of our "respectable" newspapers.

 

[usayit]

You'd be naive to think that the problems the US experience is not shared world-wide......

The issue here is that people expect better from the US given the wealth, resources, and influence. Unfortunately... its not. Furthermore, we like to air it on national news which isn't filtered nor controlled by the state.

Blacks here... Gypsies in other countries
Waterboarding here... Beheading, stoning, removal of body parts in other countries
Nip Slips here results in persecution by the media and the zealots... Showing the female form or face in others results in caining in other countries.

the list goes on and on...


We also have a tendencies to take things too far to the hypocritical. So called "quality of life" initiatives push a narrow definition of "quality of life" from a small (elitist group) to the large population. Military age versus drinking age. White collar crime versus other crime. Sex between consenting adults versus prostitution. We criminalize the symptom not the cause.