Photoshop CC and Lightroom subscription

[KmH]

I mean the way you process / organize them once you download them from your cards.

As far as organization goes, what type pf file management application do you use? - The DAM Book: Digital Asset Management for Photographers

 

[e.rose]

I don't like it.

I refuse to do it, for as long as I can possibly hold out.

CS5 came out in 2010... I've been using it since about then... so almost 4 years. Never upgraded, never felt the need to upgrade. It does what I need it to do.

I have so many people trying to convince me if I move to CC that "I'll always have the newest features!" -- I could give 2 sh*ts about that. If it weren't for Adobe CC coming out, I'd probably keep using CS5 for the next 3 years at least before even thinking about upgrading.

For people who upgraded every time a new version came out... I could see how this is cost effective. But I didn't.

At this point, I'm probably going to try to upgrade to CS6 before it's pulled off the shelves forever, and then I'll cling to that as long as humanly possible.

Cloud storage doesn't appeal to me, having the "latest features all the time" doesn't really appeal to me, and the fact that if I ever stopped being a professional photographer, and therefore couldn't support the subscription pricing any longer, I don't like the idea that I can no longer access my working files.

There is not a single thing about CC that has even remotely caught my interest.

 

[tirediron]

...having the "latest features all the time" doesn't really appeal to me...

No... no, of course it doesn't!

 

[Trblmkr]

I think a lot of people on this thread really don't understand what the $9.99 a month gets you.

For example, if you pay for the first year and then cancel. You STILL have Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5 Fully functional and operational. You're files are still able to be used 1 year, 2 years or 3 years from now with the same software. Just because you stop paying for it, doesn't mean it's going to stop working. It simple mes that you're not getting any updates. And the prices I looked at for PS CS6 when the Subscription came out was close to $1000 for PS. Even at $10 a month, it pays for itself if only for a year. PLUS you get Lightroom 5. I'm sorry, this is a no brainier of a deal IMO.

 

[Overread]

Honestly I don't think the idea was made for existing CC users - it was made for casual users. Those who get elements -who then read magazines and articles written for Photoshop and who then pirate it because they can't afford it. Thus the subscription approach, allowing Adobe to coax a lot more of the casual market into spending only a £10 a month for TWO programs! If they do the right marketing they should be able to clean up a huge new user base. The only hurdle is getting all those people to accept the subscription deals and concept which is a much bigger problem (even the more progressive computer games market does not like the whole concept of programs being remote controlled or officiated by developers to the point where unless your Blizzard its basically not used unless you're running an MMO)

 

[e.rose]

...having the "latest features all the time" doesn't really appeal to me...

No... no, of course it doesn't!

That's after working on a 6 year old MAC MINI

I will probably be running this MBP into the GROUND before I upgrade again. HAHA.

My first iPhone was the iPhone 4 and I didn't upgrade until the 5s, because it was finally slowing down and driving me crazy. Otherwise, I'd STILL have an iPhone 4. :lmao:

 

[e.rose]

I think a lot of people on this thread really don't understand what the $9.99 a month gets you.

For example, if you pay for the first year and then cancel. You STILL have Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5 Fully functional and operational. You're files are still able to be used 1 year, 2 years or 3 years from now with the same software. Just because you stop paying for it, doesn't mean it's going to stop working. It simple mes that you're not getting any updates. And the prices I looked at for PS CS6 when the Subscription came out was close to $1000 for PS. Even at $10 a month, it pays for itself if only for a year. PLUS you get Lightroom 5. I'm sorry, this is a no brainier of a deal IMO.

Not according to this forum thread:

Adobe Community: What happens to my work when I cancel my subscription?

"Hi Pauls,

Once you cancel your subscription, the product installed on your system would work fine for the consecutive 30 days as a trial version. Once those 30 days are up , your files and softwares would still be there but the software would then be giving you a pop up window requesting you to purchase the subscription . Without doing that , the product wouldnt work ."

 

[tirediron]

I think a lot of people on this thread really don't understand what the $9.99 a month gets you.

For example, if you pay for the first year and then cancel. You STILL have Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5 Fully functional and operational. You're files are still able to be used 1 year, 2 years or 3 years from now with the same software. Just because you stop paying for it, doesn't mean it's going to stop working. It simple mes that you're not getting any updates. And the prices I looked at for PS CS6 when the Subscription came out was close to $1000 for PS. Even at $10 a month, it pays for itself if only for a year. PLUS you get Lightroom 5. I'm sorry, this is a no brainier of a deal IMO.

Not according to this forum thread:

Adobe Community: What happens to my work when I cancel my subscription?

"Hi Pauls,

Once you cancel your subscription, the product installed on your system would work fine for the consecutive 30 days as a trial version. Once those 30 days are up , your files and softwares would still be there but the software would then be giving you a pop up window requesting you to purchase the subscription . Without doing that , the product wouldnt work ."

That also depends; if you bought your software outright (ie purchased boxed versions of CS6 and LR5) and then subscribed to CC for the updates, your software will work forever, but will not be updated. If you only "bought" your software through CC then, yep, stop paying and you're done, BUT... you don't lose your files.

 

[Light Guru]

I think a lot of people on this thread really don't understand what the $9.99 a month gets you.

For example, if you pay for the first year and then cancel. You STILL have Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5 Fully functional and operational. You're files are still able to be used 1 year, 2 years or 3 years from now with the same software. Just because you stop paying for it, doesn't mean it's going to stop working. It simple mes that you're not getting any updates. And the prices I looked at for PS CS6 when the Subscription came out was close to $1000 for PS. Even at $10 a month, it pays for itself if only for a year. PLUS you get Lightroom 5. I'm sorry, this is a no brainier of a deal IMO.

No you DONT get to continue using the programs.

From adobes website http://www.adobe.com/products/creativecloud/faq.html
"What happens if I decide to stop my membership?
You will continue to have access to free Creative Cloud member benefits, and if you saved your work to your computer you will continue to have access to those files. You will no longer have access to the Creative Cloud desktop applications or most of the services that are components of a Creative Cloud membership."

That said I have been a paid member of CC for a couple of years now and find it a wonderful way of getting the software I need. Adobe even let me cancel my previous subscription of $20 a month for just photoshop to take advantage of the $10 a month photoshop and Lightroom deal and they didn't even charge me the cancelation fee on the old subscription.

 

[Overread]

That said I have been a paid member of CC for a couple of years now and find it a wonderful way of getting the software I need. Adobe even let me cancel my previous subscription of $20 a month for just photoshop to take advantage of the $10 a month photoshop and Lightroom deal and they didn't even charge me the cancelation fee on the old subscription.

That's actually surprising of them! Most companies like to sting existing users like this. You see it all the time - new customers getting better deals than established members, and if you want to change there are "fees" that simply discourage you wanting to chance because you won't save much overall. Very nice of Adobe to let users chance to the most cost effective deal and without charging them a "fine" for doing so

 

[tirediron]

I think a lot of people on this thread really don't understand what the $9.99 a month gets you.

For example, if you pay for the first year and then cancel. You STILL have Photoshop CC and Lightroom 5 Fully functional and operational. You're files are still able to be used 1 year, 2 years or 3 years from now with the same software. Just because you stop paying for it, doesn't mean it's going to stop working. It simple mes that you're not getting any updates. And the prices I looked at for PS CS6 when the Subscription came out was close to $1000 for PS. Even at $10 a month, it pays for itself if only for a year. PLUS you get Lightroom 5. I'm sorry, this is a no brainier of a deal IMO.

No you DONT get to continue using the programs.

From adobes website Adobe Creative Cloud ? FAQ
"What happens if I decide to stop my membership?
You will continue to have access to free Creative Cloud member benefits, and if you saved your work to your computer you will continue to have access to those files. You will no longer have access to the Creative Cloud desktop applications or most of the services that are components of a Creative Cloud membership."

That said I have been a paid member of CC for a couple of years now and find it a wonderful way of getting the software I need. Adobe even let me cancel my previous subscription of $20 a month for just photoshop to take advantage of the $10 a month photoshop and Lightroom deal and they didn't even charge me the cancelation fee on the old subscription.

Okay, I'll rephrase that. When I talked to the rep. from Adobe Canada, she stated absolutely that if you had purchased the full program off-the-shelf from a retailer, it was yours to use in perpetuity, regardless of your cloud subscription's status. Granted, if you've upgraded to CC 19 or whatever in ten year's time, you may have to reinstall the original, but you will still have that.

 

[KmH]

Photoshop CC is only available by subscription.

If you stop paying the monthly subscription price you can no longer use Photoshop CC.
If you have LR 5 as part of the Photoshop Photographers Program and stop making the monthly subscription payments, you'll also no longer be able to use LR 5.
At that point you could buy a hard copy of LR 5 for full retail - or if you qualify for it - at the upgrade price ($79).

 

[e.rose]

Okay, I'll rephrase that. When I talked to the rep. from Adobe Canada, she stated absolutely that if you had purchased the full program off-the-shelf from a retailer, it was yours to use in perpetuity, regardless of your cloud subscription's status. Granted, if you've upgraded to CC 19 or whatever in ten year's time, you may have to reinstall the original, but you will still have that.

Right. Which only reinforces the fact that I will eventually be getting CS6, and then holding onto it for dear life. At some point I would have upgraded from CS5, but not for Adobe CC.

Someday I will upgrade my camera, and that day will be the day I am forced to upgrade to Adobe CC, because my camera profile will no longer be compatible with CS5 or CS6. HOWEVER, I am secretly praying that another company will put something out to rival Photoshop by then, at which point I will make the switch over to that, and never look back.

A girl can dream right?

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[JClishe]

What will do when the subscription price goes up? What do you do with all your edits once you stop paying the fee? Files won't be able to be backwards compatible to operate on old CS6. Do you plan on paying monthly for the rest of your life?

Are you saying that .PSD files created in Photoshop CC aren't backwards compatible with CS6? I don't own CS6 so I can't test this, but I think you're wrong.

And lets be honest - CS6 won't be operable on any current operating system in 10 years or so anyway. Can you install CS6 on Windows 2000? Nope. So do you think you'll be able to install CS6 on Windows 11 or Mac OSIV or whatever happens to be current in the year 2024? Doubtful. So if you're going to throw around the file compatibility "for the rest of your life" argument then the only way that holds any validity whatsover is if you're suggesting hanging onto a Windows 7 / 8 / 9 / OSX computer "for the rest of your life" in order to run CS6.

 

[Overread]

Heck you can't even install Lightroom 5 on anything older than Win 7. Adobe seems to be very keen to keep their software only supported and functional on modern OS systems.