Pros don't use crop bodies

[480sparky41 41]

master commercial? What are you wiring office buildings? As you think you are winning this you may actually be losing. As you are dragging this to a level of qualifications way beyond what most photographers have. So maybe we should be even more inclined to check their equipment and ask for some credentials.

I didn't realize this was a competition. I thought it was a discussion about the gear pros use.

I guess I'm outclassed here. I'll leave quietly then.

 

[tecboy]

Olivia Bee is a pro. But, I don't know what body she is using.

 

[bribrius]

master commercial? What are you wiring office buildings? As you think you are winning this you may actually be losing. As you are dragging this to a level of qualifications way beyond what most photographers have. So maybe we should be even more inclined to check their equipment and ask for some credentials.

I didn't realize this was a competition. I thought it was a discussion about the gear pros use.

I guess I'm outclassed here. I'll leave quietly then.

not at all it is fun. I don't know any pros that shoot crop sensor unless they are shooting wildlife. But that goes by what your definition of pro is. If i include mwacs, dwacs, people that started last year and came up with a website this year then yes, some of them use crop sensors. I don't know of anyone "established" in business that does. Doesn't mean they don't exist as apparent from the posts above. Just in the little pond i live in i haven't heard of any.

 

[syaudi]

case in point, I have a semi-pro Canon 5DIII, and I'm being hired as a second on-location photographer by someone who uses a Rebel with what appears to be kit lens. she can't afford anything else, so she worked with her equipment and now she can produce images as beautiful - in some cases even more so than - as the images I can produce. and I have an array of L-series lens I can borrow at no cost.
equipment certainly does help, but imo the photographer is the one a client is paying for, not the equipment. if they wanted equipment there's myriad rental websites online.

 

[gsgary]

Oh c'mon! Admit it. You don't have an inkling as to what I was talking about.

I have no idea what you're talking about with ***this*** post, though I am quite sure in your other post you were meaning to imply that a Leica and a SX-70 weren't considered great cameras in their time (or even today), which is just false.

And putting all that aside, all the talent in the world won't make you a successful photographer without some of the right gear. Your statement "The only thing necessary is TALENT, not the instrument" is false. It takes having talent and the right tools for the job. Some genres of photography are less demanding of gear, some are more demanding. Try to be a professional sports photographer without at least $3000 in gear... The spaces in which the games are played, and the requirements of the genre demand having a certain level of equipment. Try being an indoor portrait photographer who makes his or her living with it without some minimum level of lighting equipment (or specially oriented studio such that the natural light is just right). Try being a professional wildlife photographer with an SX 70. Try being a product photographer without the requisite lighting gear. Try being a commercial photographer with a point and shoot.

3000 is no where near enough to be a sports photographer I had more than treble that

 

[gsgary]

I actually do sometimes, depending on what they are being hired to do. In fact in some businesses proof of equipment and availability of equipment is required just to bid on the job. Just like proof of insurance and comp.

If you hire someone to hang a new front door on your house, I seriously doubt whether you ask if they use a Johnson level or a CheckPoint.

Yes, in B2B high-dollar contracts, asking whether a business has the hardware wherewithall to git-er-done is SOP.

But I'm asking about the pro YOU PERSONALLY hire.

I hang doors day in day out and don't know what a johnson level or checkpoint is, I use Stabila and PLS lazer levels

 

[gsgary]

I've just realised I became a professional motorcycle rider last year when I was paid to rush a passport to the airport and I also help people pass their advanced motorcycle test, I must put this on my next CV

 

[fjrabon]

Oh c'mon! Admit it. You don't have an inkling as to what I was talking about.

I have no idea what you're talking about with ***this*** post, though I am quite sure in your other post you were meaning to imply that a Leica and a SX-70 weren't considered great cameras in their time (or even today), which is just false.

And putting all that aside, all the talent in the world won't make you a successful photographer without some of the right gear. Your statement "The only thing necessary is TALENT, not the instrument" is false. It takes having talent and the right tools for the job. Some genres of photography are less demanding of gear, some are more demanding. Try to be a professional sports photographer without at least $3000 in gear... The spaces in which the games are played, and the requirements of the genre demand having a certain level of equipment. Try being an indoor portrait photographer who makes his or her living with it without some minimum level of lighting equipment (or specially oriented studio such that the natural light is just right). Try being a professional wildlife photographer with an SX 70. Try being a product photographer without the requisite lighting gear. Try being a commercial photographer with a point and shoot.

3000 is no where near enough to be a sports photographer I had more than treble that

I agree $3000 probably isn't enough in most scenarios. But I purposefully went as conservative as possible so nobody would try to find some crazy stretch that might half way get the job done.

 

[Mr. Innuendo]

A "professional" is someone who'll use what he needs to use in order to do the job.

If I'm shooting wildlife or sports, a crop sensor is certainly beneficial. But if I'm shooting a wedding (which I would actually never do), I would use a full-frame. In some instances, like concert photography, I use both. I have never had a client ask me if my camera was full-frame or a crop sensor.

If the OP is providing his clients images that they're happy with, that's the only thing that matters. How he went about making those images is secondary to anyone but people who frequent photography forums on the internet.

 

[W.Y.Photo]

I shoot clients headshots with a 50mm on a D90. They love them. Am I unprofessional because I can't yet afford a D750 and an 85?

 

[waday]

 

[bribrius]

I shoot clients headshots with a 50mm on a D90. They love them. Am I unprofessional because I can't yet afford a D750 and an 85?

i will say you are a professional anyway just because i like you. If you were someone else though i would say you suck and need a better camera.. i am totally biased.

 

[sashbar]

90% of your clients do not know the difference between Full Frame and crop sensor. Hell, half of them do not know what sensor is. They will judge you by your attitude and how confident you are in what you are doing. And, of course, by the images you are able to produce.
I have heard a story from a pro who did his portrait job with his Nikon D3 recently and was told by the client that he was using outdated gear, because modern cameras are small and compact.

 

[chuasam]

I shoot clients headshots with a 50mm on a D90. They love them. Am I unprofessional because I can't yet afford a D750 and an 85?

Do you depend on your photography for your income?

 

[W.Y.Photo]

I shoot clients headshots with a 50mm on a D90. They love them. Am I unprofessional because I can't yet afford a D750 and an 85?

Do you depend on your photography for your income?

In less than a month I will be.