Rant: The Nikon Factory Direct Store is a bunch of rip-off artists and hoodlums

[DukeBoom]

If you take such issue with my clearly labeled rant, and you think that I'm wasting YOUR time by writing this, then WHY ARE YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD??? The joke happens to be on you.

Because it seems like you signed up on this site just to knock Nikon. All but like 3 of your posts take place in this thread. You came in here and started this thread trying to stir up ****. Just leave already.

OK, next time a pack of rapid forum photography geeks attacks me for no good reason other than they disapprove of me trying to save $200 on a $1200 purchase, I'll let them attack me while I congratulate them for being so tough. THank you for your advice.

 

[bevoholic]

If you take such issue with my clearly labeled rant, and you think that I'm wasting YOUR time by writing this, then WHY ARE YOU POSTING IN THIS THREAD??? The joke happens to be on you.

Because it seems like you signed up on this site just to knock Nikon. All but like 3 of your posts take place in this thread. You came in here and started this thread trying to stir up ****. Just leave already.

OK, next time a pack of rapid forum photography geeks attacks me for no good reason other than they disapprove of me trying to save $200 on a $1200 purchase, I'll let them attack me while I congratulate them for being so tough. THank you for your advice.

Classic post by a troll. Bash a poster, but never actually say anything about what they just posted...

 

[DukeBoom]

Classic post by a troll. Bash a poster, but never actually say anything about what they just posted...

Look asshat, I have 20-something posts, over half have been made in this thread, yet if you had done your research, you would have seen I had contributed plenty to the other threads non-related to this one.

That WOULD explain why I have been repped once in a bonafide 10 or so "real" posts while you have close to 100, but haven't been repped once.

 

[bevoholic]

Classic post by a troll. Bash a poster, but never actually say anything about what they just posted...

Look ******, I have 20-something posts, over half have been made in this thread, yet if you had done your research, you would have seen I had contributed plenty to the other threads non-related to this one.

That WOULD explain why I have been repped once in a bonafide 10 or so "real" posts while you have close to 100, but haven't been repped once.

Oh wow...You have 27 posts. All but 6 are in this thread. And you been repped once out of 6 posts? Gonna stroke your e-peen anymore? And 6 posts in other threads can hardly be considered "plenty".

 

[bentcountershaft]

but haven't been repped once.

Fixed.

 

[loveDSLR]

I'm in the market for a d300s body. I like to get the best deal I can, and have no qualms about purchasing used/refurb gear.

The Nikon Factory-Direct "Outlet" has a refurb d300s body for $1440. B&H has a NEW d300s body for $1450. On ebay, you can get the NEW Japanese d300s bodies for $1250.

I decide to call the Nikon Factory-Direct Store to negotiated a better price for the refurbs - I mean, come on, $10 less for a refurb compared to a new US one is ridiculous.

I tell the Sales guy I can get a NEW body for practically the same price and/or cheaper on ebay and at B&H. He tells me, "Don't get it on ebay."

I go, "why?"

He replies, "Because they're not US models."

I tell him that they're identical. He goes, "But we [as in Nikon] don't know where they come from. And we won't work on it or repair it for you. You will have to send it to Japan to get it repaired." I decide not to mention how some of these resellers have sky-high feedback ratings and offer warranties.

So instead I tell him that B&H has a new one for $10 more, and it would behoove him to go lower on the refurb body.

He replies, "I can't do that because this is coming factory-direct from Nikon." Uhhh-huh, ok. I decided against telling him that if it were really factory-direct, they'd be sending it directly from me from Asia.

After this a$$hole from Nikon, I'm reconsidering going to Canon.

Based upon my years in the retail industry, I guarantee B&H buys them new for likely between $800-900. I'm not asking Nikon to go down to $800 for a freakin REFURBISHED body because I understand they're "protecting" they're 3 or 4 authorized suppliers/distributors. But to not negotiate at all on a freakin refurb that is priced way out-of-line is RIDICULOUS.

Add to that the rudeness of the Sales rep, well, it's a big turn-off.

Word. I love Canon and they have good customer service per personal experience. Switch. ;]

 

[GooniesNeverSayDie11]

Hey hey hey, what makes you think us Canon shooters want him? Let him go with Pentax.

 

[table1349]

OK, next time a pack of rapid forum photography geeks attacks me for no good reason other than they disapprove of me trying to save $200 on a $1200 purchase, I'll let them attack me while I congratulate them for being so tough. THank you for your advice.

Let me see if I have the jist of this correctly. You called the Nikon Factory-Direct Store because you wanted to "negotiate" a better deal than what they offered. They explained that they didn't negotiate on their prices. You got all pissed off because the Nikon Factor-Direct Store didn't kiss your @$$. So then you came here to this forum to rant about the Nikon Factory-Direct Store and that they explained their business practices to you and that they did not change their business practices for you and now you are all upset that the members of this forum aren't kissing your @$$, because the forum members understand the basic concept of the retail business? If I have summed this up correctly then you might be better pursuing your issue here.

If I am incorrect in my understanding of your issue then I would suggest that you might want to consider this instead.

 

[bevoholic]

OK, next time a pack of rapid forum photography geeks attacks me for no good reason other than they disapprove of me trying to save $200 on a $1200 purchase, I'll let them attack me while I congratulate them for being so tough. THank you for your advice.

Let me see if I have the jist of this correctly. You called the Nikon Factory-Direct Store because you wanted to "negotiate" a better deal than what they offered. They explained that they didn't negotiate on their prices. You got all pissed off because the Nikon Factor-Direct Store didn't kiss your @$$. So then you came here to this forum to rant about the Nikon Factory-Direct Store and that they explained their business practices to you and that they did not change their business practices for you and now you are all upset that the members of this forum aren't kissing your @$$, because the forum members understand the basic concept of the retail business? If I have summed this up correctly then you might be better pursuing your issue here.

If I am incorrect in my understanding of your issue then I would suggest that you might want to consider this instead.

:lmao:

 

[New Hampshire]

That WOULD explain why I have been repped once in a bonafide 10 or so "real" posts while you have close to 100, but haven't been repped once.

Don't mean nothing dude. The "like" aka "thank" feature basically reset to zero with the forum upgrade but not post counts. Bevoholic coulda had 60 "thanks" over on the previous format in 88 posts, but you wouldn't know it.

 

[flea77]

Dukeboom, you remind me of a bridezilla I once knew.....

Allan

 

[MissCream]

Hey hey hey, what makes you think us Canon shooters want him? Let him Pentax.

No no no... We don't want him either! And by we I mean me. Because I'm pretty much the only one.

 

[Gaerek]

The used gear market for anything - musical equipment, industrial equipment, photography equipment - is essentially a flea market where everything is negotiable.

Once again, showing your ignorance on how things work.

Refurbished != Used

Used means that I had it, used it for a while, it got beat up, worn out, etc, then I try to sell it to you for less than what I paid. Refurbished means it was sent back to the factory where broken/worn out parts are replaced, it's cleaned up, and tested, to ensure quality. Then it's resold at a reduced price, almost always with some kind of warranty. With my experience with refurbished (and I buy quite a lot of refurbished stuff) it's essentially good as new. I bought a refurbished Kindle 2 from Amazon over a year ago for a savings of $40. It looked new (no nicks, dings, etc), came with the SAME warranty as on the new Kindle 2, and today, still works just as good as the day I bought it, minus the crack in the front that was my fault from rough handling.

You simply cannot compare a refurbished price to a used price because they are two completely different products and markets.

No you're wrong. Used gear is graded on quality-levels. The higher quality used gear is typically the result of an unwanted gift, buyer's remorse, or selling the gear for some quick cash. The lower-quality gear is beat-up.

Refurb'd gear is gear that malfunctioned, or a demo gear in a showroom, that's sent back to the shop for warranty repair. The shop will often send a replacement piece to the user. The factory MAYBE switches out a capacitor, or reloads the ROM, then gives it a dusting and sends it back out the door. Usually it's demo gear or anything that was taken out of the box for whatever reason at a store.

They're essentially the same when you're talking like-new used or refurbd gear.

Dude, you're TOTALLY missing the point. How do I know (especially if I'm buying on eBay or Amazon Marketplace, or whatever) that your High Quality used gear is in perfect working order?

I'll answer for you. I don't know. How do I know that the refurb from the manufacturer is in perfect working order?

I do know because it's backed by a warranty and the manufacturer's reputation. Bottom line: Used and Refurb are completely different markets and are priced accordingly.

Contrary to what you know about markets and how they work, I actually understand how our free market works. I also completely understand how refurbished products work. At the same price, refurbished from the manufacturer would get sold over high quality used any day of the week. Please, think before you post, so you can actually appear to be the somewhat intelligent person I'm sure you are. Like I said in a previous post, you're simply pissed because you can't get something at a lower price than it's worth. Your reason for being upset is completely unfounded, and it makes you look like a petty a***ole.

 

[Gaerek]

OK, next time a pack of rapid forum photography geeks attacks me for no good reason other than they disapprove of me trying to save $200 on a $1200 purchase, I'll let them attack me while I congratulate them for being so tough. THank you for your advice.

Wow, more ignorance. Most people (myself included) love to save money. It's the fact that you've decided to b*tch and moan about it instead of actually thinking about the situation and realizing you're completely in the wrong here. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to admit that. The prideful rarely admit they're wrong.

If you came here and told us you bought a factory refurb from Nikon, they told you it's in perfect condition, then you received it, it was in poor shape, didn't work, and they wouldn't accept a return, you'd likely have sympathizers. But, instead, well, read all the posts except yours to understand why you got the reaction you did. Or do I need to spell it out to you like everything else so far?

EDIT: *sigh* Looks like I need to edit my sig. I can't find ignore anywhere for this winner.

 

[o hey tyler]