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Shifting paradigms... The future of sports and photojournalism photography..

Pro sports shooters and PJ's usually don't have a lot of time and are required to send JPEGs ASAP.

It's the kind of business that 'if you snooze, you lose', and sifting through several 10's - 100's of thousands of video frames to cherry pick some stills likely won't feature.

Have you ever worked with high-end video editing equipment? The production team would just quickly scan through the video stream to find the last play... pull out a few frames as 'stills' and move on... You'd actually get images out faster.

If they shoot video, it will probably be shown as video.
That is my point exactly... They are already shooting video... It won't be hard to pull stills from that video feed that are 'print' quality. Who needs a 'still' photographer any more on the sidelines.

If you have to ask the question, "who needs a still photographer anymore on the sidelines" Then you haven't shot too many professional football games.
 
The idea that the development of 4k and 8k video capture will automatically lead to a paradigm shift in sports and photojournalism is not borne out by the past. I watched a film called "The Paradigm Shift" about a decade ago; it focused on the relatively rare paradigm shift phenomenon. Paradigm shifts are not common, and the odd thing about them is that they are often predicted--but they seldom actually happen. And when they do happen, almost always, the shift comes from ideas brought forth by people or companies that are OUTSIDE of the industry in which the shift occurs. For example, the movie examined the case of a high-miles-per-gallon car design contest offering a large monetary prize was announced.

The usual suspects, the auto companies' engineering departments, as well at MIT and RIT and Cal-Berkeley engineering groups, and other associated engineering "geniuses" came up with...the same old chit...same-old,same-old...it took outsiders, and neophytes, to win the competition.

The winners? A group of high school students who used a car that looked like a dragster...huge rear tires, small front tires, and a small engine to get the car moving--and then, in a true paradigm shift, they had a propulsion system based upon hydraulic cylinders that could store tremendous amounts of energy. ALL the other groups focused on small displacement internal combustion engines. But...did this amazing, over 100 mpg car ever develop into a paradigm shifting reality....uh....no.

I recall reading old, 1950's copies of Popular Mechanics in the early 1970's; issue after issue predicted air-cars in 50 years. That was the paradigm shift the experts just KNEW would be the next big thing in automobiles....personal "air-cars". I mean, we had decent aircraft then...aircraft had been around since the early 1900's, so, 40 years or so...what the heck happened?
 
When you have 5 seconds to capture that moment wouldn't you rather have 600 frames then 50? The

Nope, I'd rather have good timing from experience and get one frame.
 
There are dreams and there are realities, they don't always end up being on the same path. People make predictions based on the expert knowledge they have at that time. I can predict that it is going to rain when it's already raining. Currently all the weather change experts are predicting that in 50 years the polar ice caps will have melted and flood all the coastal cities, and yet these same expert people can't get the weather right two days from now. Will camera technology change, yes it will, will video grabs continue to get better, yes they will, will drone video cameras take over what skilled photographers are doing, nope. Maybe when the polar ice caps melt.
 
Pro sports shooters and PJ's usually don't have a lot of time and are required to send JPEGs ASAP.

It's the kind of business that 'if you snooze, you lose', and sifting through several 10's - 100's of thousands of video frames to cherry pick some stills likely won't feature.

Have you ever worked with high-end video editing equipment? The production team would just quickly scan through the video stream to find the last play... pull out a few frames as 'stills' and move on... You'd actually get images out faster.

If they shoot video, it will probably be shown as video.
That is my point exactly... They are already shooting video... It won't be hard to pull stills from that video feed that are 'print' quality. Who needs a 'still' photographer any more on the sidelines.

Ask any sports news outlet if they use 4k cameras to shoot game video.

My bet is that none of them do. What good does an 8k camera do if they industry doesn't even use the "lesser" resolution of today.

Also; might I reiterate that 8k video would take enormous storage and processing power?

Sports Illustrated doesn't have time to wait for some sports network to pull frames when they can go to a wire service or their own staff right after the game?

What you're suggesting, with today's technology, is both inefficient and expensive.
 
It's like any new tech. There will be early adopters and stubborn holdouts.

Same old story. But yes in the future dslr and video cameras will be one in the same.
 
If there was a practical or feasible use for it I think it would have been done already. There's been the capability to use one frame from a strip of video film footage for some time now.

I know for example that SI wants their photographers' media cards turned in directly from the camera; from what I understand their editors want to see what the photographers are getting in camera. I think the purpose for that is to have photos that don't need much editing - many teams and media outlets want the photos on their websites by the time a game is done. They don't have time or don't want to have to spend a lot of time editing their photographers' work.

I think with sports and/or news there's a need for being able to shoot photos efficiently, and it doesn't seem like recording 2-3 hours minimum of footage to search through to find good photos for publication is a workable option.

(And I don't think where I live they can predict the weather two hours from now much less two days!)
 
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I think a lot of you are missing the.. "IN THE FUTURE".. part of this thread.

case in point..

Ask any sports news outlet if they use 4k cameras to shoot game video.

My bet is that none of them do. What good does an 8k camera do if they industry doesn't even use the "lesser" resolution of today.

Also; might I reiterate that 8k video would take enormous storage and processing power?

Sports Illustrated doesn't have time to wait for some sports network to pull frames when they can go to a wire service or their own staff right after the game?

What you're suggesting, with today's technology, is both inefficient and expensive.


4k video is getting more main stream... a 50inch 4k LCD for $1500? Seiki 50-Inch 4K TV Eyes-On: How the Hell Is a TV This Beautiful So Cheap?
8k (33mp) video moving forward..

10 years ago was anybody using a tablet computer? Smart Phone? How things are done TODAY will not define what happens TOMORROW.
 
How things are done today will always influence what happens tomorrow.
 
I think a lot of you are missing the.. "IN THE FUTURE".. part of this thread.

Where is my doggone air car???? Those were supposed to be here 10 years ago, dangit!

Why am I not living on Mars, in the Mars Colony we read about as kids in the early 1970's?

Why are we ALL not equipped with comfortable,affordable, chic, wearable eyeglasses/computers/micro entertainment systems?

Where is that doggone 'cure for cancer' I have heard we are so,so close to...since the 1980's...?

I'm sorry, but I have heard/seen/talked about all kinds of "in the future we will have ________________" things, for far too long to have faith in ANY projections.

;) :lol: :hug::
 

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