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Feel free to shut me down right away on this but I got to thinking.

Why doesn't somebody make an adapter (i.e.: Nikon->Canon) that has a conversion chip to allow for autofocus? This is probably a very nieve question but I thought I'd throw it out there. I know that there is AF beep chips and so forth.

Is the wiring and connections just so much different? Are the autofocus "brains" in the camera different?

Thoughts?
 
I wonder about how different the two systems really,truly are. Nikon made the TC-16A autofocus tele-converter that converted manual focusing Nikon lenses of f/2.8 or faster to autofocusing, and it works amazingly well. I have one...it snaps manual focusing lenses right in to focus. I "think" it might be possible to mount Nikon lenses on an adapter that would bring AF to the Canon body, but the lens diaphragm action would be fully manual. The TC-16A will not work on "all" Nikon bodies. No matter the technical feasibility, a cross-platform adapter with autofocusing action is quite unlikely to be made.
 
Derrel do Nikon bodies use a mechanical aperture control on their lenses? Otherwise if not and its all electronic signals it should be possible to make an adaptor that would allow full control over any lens brand - of course the problem is that you have to reverse design the interface controls; and add to that the fact that the companies probably vary these on a lens by lens basis as they come off the production line and go through new generations, so its probably a nightmare of small changes that you have to spot to get most lenses to work.

Honestly it must be a coding nightmare otherwise I think we would have seen more of them - maybe not Canon/Nikon but certainly it would be good to see the m4/3rds getting proper controlling adaptors
 
This sounds like engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you really suggesting that there would be no problem buying a $300 lens with sophisticated autofocus, that doesn't autofocus?
 
This sounds like engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you really suggesting that there would be no problem buying a $300 lens with sophisticated autofocus, that doesn't autofocus?

Ummmmmmmmmmm, No.
 
This sounds like engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you really suggesting that there would be no problem buying a $300 lens with sophisticated autofocus, that doesn't autofocus?

The wheel has been invented. No reason to try and re0invent it. When you start talking about good glass, Canon and Nikon pretty much have the same thing. Just as easy, why not put a Ford motor into a Chevrolet body with at Dodge transmission and Toyota wheels? No real need to.
 
This sounds like engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you really suggesting that there would be no problem buying a $300 lens with sophisticated autofocus, that doesn't autofocus?

No. I'm saying there aren't hordes of people demanding to be able to put Nikkors on their Canons and L-glass on their D3s, all the while asking for complete and total functionality.
 
I would go for it. Since canon hasn't come up with a decent 35mm other than the L lens while Nikon has the 1.8.
 
This sounds like engineering a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

That doesn't make any sense. Are you really suggesting that there would be no problem buying a $300 lens with sophisticated autofocus, that doesn't autofocus?

No. I'm saying there aren't hordes of people demanding to be able to put Nikkors on their Canons and L-glass on their D3s, all the while asking for complete and total functionality.

You've clearly not heard about the wide angle super lens that Nikon makes which has some Canon shooters using all manual adaptors or even buying a Nikon just to get to use. I also know a few who shoot wildlife and when the option of changing systems comes up to them its often the cost of replacing good glass with good glass which is where they lose out to the manufacturers - if they just changed bodies and mounted an adaptor they'd probably be shifting brands a lot more.
 
You've clearly not heard about the wide angle super lens that Nikon makes which has some Canon shooters using all manual adaptors or even buying a Nikon just to get to use. I also know a few who shoot wildlife and when the option of changing systems comes up to them its often the cost of replacing good glass with good glass which is where they lose out to the manufacturers - if they just changed bodies and mounted an adaptor they'd probably be shifting brands a lot more.

Which would be what fraction of a percent of serious shutter-snappers?

I'm not claiming nobody would be interested in such a critter, just the vast majority of camera-clickers don't have the need for it.
 
Aye true, which is why I did add that I'd prefer to see effective mounts for the micro 4/3rds cameras since I see that as a viable companion market to the DSLRs. Letting you use those smaller m4/3rds bodies and their lenses when size is important and also letting you use the full DSLR lenses when you need/want to.
 
Currently the lens adapter market has simple "dumb" lens adapters, as well as "focus confirmation" adapters that cause the AF confirmation system, aka "the green dot" and or the "chirp sound" to be enabled when using adapted lenses. Focusing is still accomplished by the photographer turning the focusing ring on the lens. As far as lens diaphragms: all Nikon lenses use a mechanical lever to open and close the lens diaphragm. This mechanical system is what allows a 1959 Nikkor lens to have automatic aperture operation on say, a Nikon D40,D60,D3100, or D5100--it is a purely mechanical aperture actuating lever on each Nikkor or Nikon lens. MOST Nikkor lenses have a mechanically controlled f/stop ring on each lens barrel, but the newer lenses, the Autofocusing, G-series models, have NO lens f/stop ring on the lenses, so they are like Canon EF or Minolta/Konica-Minolta/Sony A-mount/Alpha-mount lenses. The very,very newest lens adapter for Nikon lenses to Canon bodies is a limited-production model that allows for adjusting of the Nikon G-series type lenses on Canon SLR Cameras, and was spawned mostly due to a demand to use the new Nikkor 14-24mm lens--which is actually a noticeably better optical performer than even the Canon 14mm f/2.8-L lens, and far better than Canon's 24mm f/1.4-L lens..it's just a simply incredible lens....an ultra-wide, full-frame capable lens that out-performs almost any Canon wide-angle prime, and any Canon zoom, and basically, is better than 90 percent of Nikkor wide primes or zooms ever made...Nikon's "old-style" 16,18,20,24 mm regular-speed f/2.8 primes are not anywhere near as well-corrected as the new 14-24 zoom is--but then again, the "regular" ones are now 20-25-30 year old optical designs.

I suppose it would be theoretically possible for a new kind of smart adapter to be made, like one that could convert the orphaned Canon FD-mount manual focusing lenses to 1) autofocusing and 2)some type of automatic diaphragm operation via contacts and a servo motor system inside of the adapter, as well as some glass elements to make infinity focusing possible with the older FD-mount type lenses. The signals the Canon EOS bodies send out could be read, and could be programmed to activate a small motor that would mechanically close, then re-open the mechanically-actuated lens diaphragm found in manual focusing Canon lenses, after each exposure. I think however that the chances of this type of thing being made are about as high as the chances of pigs flying some day. Nikon 's TC-16A proves that a converter CAN CONVERT manually focusing lenses to FULL AF operation on an AF body....so that concept is proven and a real product exists. But that is also a one-system product, that has the same type of f/stop actuation mechanism in both the old, manual focusing lenses, the older AF lenses, as well as the very,very newest lenses made today. A multi-platform smart converter would be much more difficult to design.
 
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All I can say is that from personal experience, infinity-corrected adapters suck. A lot. So while Nikon to Canon, iirc, is possible, the other way around is problematic, AF or no AF, unless you like shooting everything at f:8.
 

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