street beggers

[unpopular]

(but you know it is easier to not cite your own citation and post insulting gifs)

 

[tirediron]

Okay, let's all relax folks. We all have our own opinions on this topic; there's no 'right' or 'wrong', just opinion.

 

[table1349]

wrong, but funny!

Please. Tell me in what measurable way is the effect of simple panhandling on others different from proselytizing?

Per you..."You do not have a right to not be asked for spare change. Provided that a panhandler is not engaging in a threatening manner or some other manner that violates your rights, it must be permitted."

Now read what I linked too.

What, the whole thing? Maybe some other time. From the preface:

how to curb one especially annoying public nuisance—panhandling that is abusive, A Guide to Regulating Panhandling persistent, or threatening.

So clearly this guide is not intended for panhandling in general, but rather "aggressive panhandling". No, you can't threaten people, follow them around pestering them. Specifically, this guide is intended for "panhandling that is abusive".

This is why I was always careful to state "simple" panhandling.

The same would apply to any speech, political and religious alike. You have a right to free speech, provided that you aren't violating the rights of others. The only thing special about panhandlers is their specific social class.

And simply asking for money or holding a sign does not do this, and if somewhere in this guide they suggest that panhandling is inherently threatening that's the kind of "unconstitutional convenience" I am referring to.

 

[480sparky40 39]

..........Yes, the government can regulate the use of public property, but they cannot regulate it in a way that violates the freedoms of the people...........

That's true. At least in Fantasy USA. In the Real USA, our rights are violated on an hourly basis.

 

[unpopular]

Your argument is "you're wrong because you're wrong".

It's like debating with an eight year old.

 

[table1349]

Your argument is "you're wrong because you're wrong".

It's like debating with an eight year old.

Yes discussing this with you is like discussing it with an 8 year old. The reality of the world doesn't matter to you only what you want. Sorry, were not buying the cereal just because you want the toy in the box.

 

[unpopular]

You failed to demonstrate in what way panhandling objectively differs from any other form of speech and your only evidence to support yourself was a pamphlet that lacks relevance, which you clearly haven't read yourself.

So please, enlighten me to this "reality" you're talking about.

And for heavens sake. Use words, not GIFs.

 

[tirediron]

....... and we're done. Everyone go outside and take a picture.