t3i causing noise, time to upgrade. but stuck b/t 6D, 7D, 60D, 70D

[tC_H4V0K]

As in the title ive noticed that i havent been very happy with my rebel t3i and its tendency to create noise (even at low ISO) and decided to start saving up for a better body camera and sell my camera with 3 filters for about $450. the only lens i have right now is a 50mm f1.8. Ill probs just buy a camera body and stick with the 50mm for a while. I primarily shoot automotive photography. Im torn (and confused) on the differences between a 6D, 60D, 7D, and 70D. what are the extra "0's" mean? I dont wanna spend more than $1000 on a body and will probs buy one off craigslist or used off amazon. Would it be risky to buy refurbished off amazon? Can anyone point out the main differences between these 4 cameras and tell me what will be the best buy for me? any help is hugely appreciated! Thank you!

 

[robbins.photo]

As in the title ive noticed that i havent been very happy with my rebel t3i and its tendency to create noise (even at low ISO) and decided to start saving up for a better body camera and sell my camera with 3 filters for about $450. the only lens i have right now is a 50mm f1.8. Ill probs just buy a camera body and stick with the 50mm for a while. I primarily shoot automotive photography. Im torn (and confused) on the differences between a 6D, 60D, 7D, and 70D. what are the extra "0's" mean? I dont wanna spend more than $1000 on a body and will probs buy one off craigslist or used off amazon. Would it be risky to buy refurbished off amazon? Can anyone point out the main differences between these 4 cameras and tell me what will be the best buy for me? any help is hugely appreciated! Thank you!

Well if your wanting to stay under $1000 for the body you can scratch the 6d, 7d, and 70d off your list already. The 70d I think is running at roughly $1100 so that might still be within your acceptable budget range. The 6D is a full frame camera, the 7d, 60d and 70d are crop sensor cameras. The full frame will give you the better lowlight performance you want, but it's way out of your listed price range. The 70d will give you a little bit better low light performance than your current T3I, but not really by very much. It has a slighly higher boost ISO but the noise factor will remain about the same from what I understand. It's also a couple hundred dollars above your budget of $1000.

The 60d uses the same sensor as your T3i and the lowlight performance is going to be pretty much exactly the same as well. If it were me and I were looking for better lowlight performance with your listed budget, my recommendation would be to sell both your T3I and your 50 mm lens and switch over to Nikon.

You could purchase both a D7000 and a 50 mm prime for it for under $1000 and it will give you better lowlight performance than your current T3i, or go with the D7100 which would give you even a little bit better lowlight performance than the D7000 - though the D7100 would be a little more expensive, you can still get the body for under $1000 though you would go a little over that when purchasing the lens as well - but of course since you'd be selling your T3i as well as your current Canon 50 mm you'll have a bit more money in your budget so the D7100 would probably still be quite doable.

Both the D7000 and the D7100 will also give you much better image quality than the 60d and even the 70d, in fact the D7000 would give you about the same quality of image you could expect from a 6d and the D7100's image quality is even better.

Now the 6d is a full frame camera so it would have an edge over the 7000/7100 in low light performance, but they are also about twice your current budget - they run around $1800 for just the body. So if it were me, I'd take a serious look at switching over to Nikon, either that or keep the T3i you currently have until you can afford to purchase the 6D.

Oh, also if your budget is a little flexible, the Nikon d600 would be a good one to give serious consideration too - it is full frame so the lowlight performance would be a big step up from where you are currently, it would give you better image quality than even a 6d can obtain, and a refurbished unit for the body only would run you around $1400 from adorama. I know that's a little more than what your looking to spend but I put it out there for your consideration.

Hope that helps.

 

[JacaRanda]

Are you able to post some examples of pictures with the noise issues along with the settings and lighting setup or conditions? You may find the reason and perhaps a less expensive solution.

 

[SCraig]

Are you able to post some examples of pictures with the noise issues along with the settings and lighting setup or conditions? You may find the reason and perhaps a less expensive solution.

^^ This. Noise is not just a function of a camera body but how you use that camera body.

 

[paigew]

I used the t3i for a long time at high iso without much noise issues. I agree, post a photo and maybe we can help

 

[tC_H4V0K]

As in the title ive noticed that i havent been very happy with my rebel t3i and its tendency to create noise (even at low ISO) and decided to start saving up for a better body camera and sell my camera with 3 filters for about $450. the only lens i have right now is a 50mm f1.8. Ill probs just buy a camera body and stick with the 50mm for a while. I primarily shoot automotive photography. Im torn (and confused) on the differences between a 6D, 60D, 7D, and 70D. what are the extra "0's" mean? I dont wanna spend more than $1000 on a body and will probs buy one off craigslist or used off amazon. Would it be risky to buy refurbished off amazon? Can anyone point out the main differences between these 4 cameras and tell me what will be the best buy for me? any help is hugely appreciated! Thank you!

Well if your wanting to stay under $1000 for the body you can scratch the 6d, 7d, and 70d off your list already. The 70d I think is running at roughly $1100 so that might still be within your acceptable budget range. The 6D is a full frame camera, the 7d, 60d and 70d are crop sensor cameras. The full frame will give you the better lowlight performance you want, but it's way out of your listed price range. The 70d will give you a little bit better low light performance than your current T3I, but not really by very much. It has a slighly higher boost ISO but the noise factor will remain about the same from what I understand. It's also a couple hundred dollars above your budget of $1000.

The 60d uses the same sensor as your T3i and the lowlight performance is going to be pretty much exactly the same as well. If it were me and I were looking for better lowlight performance with your listed budget, my recommendation would be to sell both your T3I and your 50 mm lens and switch over to Nikon.

You could purchase both a D7000 and a 50 mm prime for it for under $1000 and it will give you better lowlight performance than your current T3i, or go with the D7100 which would give you even a little bit better lowlight performance than the D7000 - though the D7100 would be a little more expensive, you can still get the body for under $1000 though you would go a little over that when purchasing the lens as well - but of course since you'd be selling your T3i as well as your current Canon 50 mm you'll have a bit more money in your budget so the D7100 would probably still be quite doable.

Both the D7000 and the D7100 will also give you much better image quality than the 60d and even the 70d, in fact the D7000 would give you about the same quality of image you could expect from a 6d and the D7100's image quality is even better.

Now the 6d is a full frame camera so it would have an edge over the 7000/7100 in low light performance, but they are also about twice your current budget - they run around $1800 for just the body. So if it were me, I'd take a serious look at switching over to Nikon, either that or keep the T3i you currently have until you can afford to purchase the 6D.

Oh, also if your budget is a little flexible, the Nikon d600 would be a good one to give serious consideration too - it is full frame so the lowlight performance would be a big step up from where you are currently, it would give you better image quality than even a 6d can obtain, and a refurbished unit for the body only would run you around $1400 from adorama. I know that's a little more than what your looking to spend but I put it out there for your consideration.

Hope that helps.

Im not a huge Nikon guy. Ill look into the d7000 but im probably still gonna go with canon since its just what ive been used to. Ive been used to canon all my life and intend to stick with canon. So ill cross 60D off the list hands down. I found some 7D bodies on craigslist for $700. I intend to buy used not new, all the prices you listed were new. I may save a while for the 6D because that sounds like the best option, since ive been so used to canon. The 70D is still within the question as well. Ill upload a few photos once I have better wifi on my laptop but its just been so frustrating because i find myself always using the luminance feature in Lightroom trying to get rid of that stupid noise. I try to keep ISO below 800 but thats tricky at night and a few of the photos i used low iso with a long shutter speed and still got excessive noise. Its in all of my low light photos and in some of my daytime photos even. I tried to compensate the low ISO with a slow shutter and high aperture. I havent used the 50mm at night yet, so the photos youll see are with the stock 18-55 lens. Thanks for the help and ill keep you posted.

 

[DarkShadow]

I have a feeling the noise is related to low light shooting and High ISO. IMHO, if your looking to upgrade to any one of the models on your list other then the 6D to be significantly better with noise, forgot about it. All the crop sensors on your list are not going to be noise eating monsters. The 6D is the best of the bunch but also a FF camera and already over your budget not counting the glass. As others have said, a picture with the EXIF Data can help a great deal.

 

[Juga]

I used the t3i for a long time at high iso without much noise issues. I agree, post a photo and maybe we can help

Your style is heavy noise…sooooo…:mrgreen:. I love the way you incorporate noise into your images it just works.

OP, if you are looking for less noise then you definitely will want and wait until you have enough for the 6D or better. Otherwise like others have said maybe post a few. Perhaps you are an extreme pixel peeper.

 

[robbins.photo]

Im not a huge Nikon guy. Ill look into the d7000 but im probably still gonna go with canon since its just what ive been used to. Ive been used to canon all my life and intend to stick with canon. So ill cross 60D off the list hands down. I found some 7D bodies on craigslist for $700. I intend to buy used not new, all the prices you listed were new. I may save a while for the 6D because that sounds like the best option, since ive been so used to canon. The 70D is still within the question as well. Ill upload a few photos once I have better wifi on my laptop but its just been so frustrating because i find myself always using the luminance feature in Lightroom trying to get rid of that stupid noise. I try to keep ISO below 800 but thats tricky at night and a few of the photos i used low iso with a long shutter speed and still got excessive noise. Its in all of my low light photos and in some of my daytime photos even. I tried to compensate the low ISO with a slow shutter and high aperture. I havent used the 50mm at night yet, so the photos youll see are with the stock 18-55 lens. Thanks for the help and ill keep you posted.

No worries, I understand once you get used to using a particular system it gets harder to change. I really wouldn't recommend the 7D though, I mean not if your goal is lower noise at high ISO. The 7d shoots a lot faster and has a much better autofocus system than your current T3i but lowlight performance will be pretty much the same. So if much better lowlight is your goal I'd probably recommend you save up until you can afford the 6d.

 

[DarkShadow]

The more I look at the 6D the more I want one in my camera bag but Waiting to see what canon brings to the table with the 7D Mark II. The waiting suspense is brutal.

 

[ronlane]

The more I look at the 6D the more I want one in my camera bag but Waiting to see what canon brings to the table with the 7D Mark II.

Me too. It's killing me to wait on another body and get out of the T3i. I want 20+mp, don't know why, but I want it.

 

[Juga]

The more I look at the 6D the more I want one in my camera bag but Waiting to see what canon brings to the table with the 7D Mark II. The waiting suspense is brutal.

The more I look at the 6D the more I want one in my camera bag but Waiting to see what canon brings to the table with the 7D Mark II.

Me too. It's killing me to wait on another body and get out of the T3i. I want 20+mp, don't know why, but I want it.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 6D II in 2015.

 

[DarkShadow]

If Canon up there Dynamic Range a bit and the specs are true for the 7D Mark II, It should be the best crop sensor on the market. A Large buffer and 10 to 12 FPS is a dream for us Bird photographers.

 

[Juga]

If Canon up there Dynamic Range a bit and the specs are true for the 7D Mark II, It should be the best crop sensor on the market.

I hope they don't use the same 70D sensor. They really need to create some separation between the bodies other than AF, FPS, and little differences. I have read some rumors even saying that the AF system will be the same from the 1DX and 5DIII. We shall see…

 

[robbins.photo]

If Canon up there Dynamic Range a bit and the specs are true for the 7D Mark II, It should be the best crop sensor on the market. A Large buffer and 10 to 12 FPS is a dream for us Bird photographers.

PShaw.. best camera for bird photography? The Pentax K1000. You throw it at the bird and stun it, then take pictures of it using either a Canon or Nikon. Works like a charm.