That "film look," are we creating a false memory?

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    29ADFB15-96E7-4542-B792-1B58432DB070.jpeg Here is a 34 year old image. Apologies for the lack of light leaks and scratches and water stains.


     
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    I shoot both film and digital, and color correct my digital to mostly match my film. Why? Because I like certain colors on film better. Most people these days associate film with light and airy, but that's not always the case. You can create different looks and colors by simply expose them differently. Kodak Portra 400 can be dark and contrasty at box speed, but over expose 2 stops and you get a whole different look and feel to it. In the end, it's an artistic expression IMHO.

    Portra 400 box speed, metered for midtones, Nikon F100.
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    Portra 400, metered for shadows, over exposed 2 stops, Pentax 67ii
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    .... very nice images. I like the muted tones. Do you recreate this for digital, I guess it would be reasonably practical in post, and even in camera?
     
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    I created my own LR presets to get close., then I tweak some of the individual colors. to get it even closer. Matching is easier when lighting is good and even.
     
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    When I shoot Velvia 50, I don't try to match the chrome's colors lighting and contrast when I adjust the scanned image. Rather i adjust to my taste. Neither I nor the viewers care I used Velvia. As long as the results satisfies me on my calebrated monitor, that's what counts. After all, a film palette was designed by some guy's vision who worked for the film manufacturer 50 years ago. So what I do is what you do with digital RAW issues.
     
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    A person may have fun trying to digitally create a certain "film look" based on a group of photos, but I do not think that even film can capture all the variation one sees in film photography.

    Often I find digital images too perfect. They remind me of the old super bright, deep color movie posters of the "Technicolor" era. Sunsets, waterfalls, icebergs and even caves are crisp and clear, devoid of the natural dirt smudges, water stains, matted vegetation etc.

    Sounds like an interesting pastime project.
     
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    LR vintage PP !!!
    Hmm, my B&W film images look much better.

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    "dxqcanada, post: 3931377, member: 36391"]LR vintage PP !!!
    Hmm, my B&W film images look much better.

    - Very Nice Edwardian look - works well when the subjects are so appropriate.

    This is just a mobile phone snap edited on the same phone to try to give it a '30's Hollywood look. Perhaps the digital watch needs to be cloned out
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    I've posted this image before ....but I thought I should show it ... film photography ain't vintage just because it is old tech.
    Agfa 400 B&W negative film 4x5 format (scan of print) ... correction, this was 120 format, scanned with Minolta Scan Multi II.
    I'm not even sure why I am adding more to this topic.

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    To me, this is the bottom line. To me, the "film look" that is all the rage is just trying to replicate the look of old prints that sat in a shoebox for 30 years fading and getting scratched. I shot a lot of Velvia and Provia back in the day. I had a projector and a large screen that I would use to view them and none of the shots had "that film look." I think the "film look" of today is really "the old, faded, beat-up print look." For example, here's a scan of a print and a scan of a slide. This is an extreme example, to be sure, but can you tell which is which? lol

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    I would guess the top one (arch rock) is the slide.
    Maybe ektachrome?
     
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    They both look like film.
     

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