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Gary heard that martini's should be stirred and never shaken ... (James Bond notwithstanding).

Shaking does melt the ice quickly and can dilute the drink in an unpleasant way if shaken too much. I've had martinis served to me that were shaken so much that there are little ice chips floating on the surface. It tastes nice and cold for the first few sips, but it's also clearly diluted. A good martini should be chilled, but should not contain ice floes. ;)

Having said that, I do shake my martinis, but not for very long.
 
Finely ... after a long day Gary has emerged fresh from the shower. Miss Maggie, Mary Lou and he are on the recliner, watching Rachel, sipping a very smooth vino, snacking on orange slices from fruit just plucked from the tree, a barrel stave with seven candles lighting the room ... it has been a good day.
 
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I'm willing to accept vodka as a variant, but the original was gin and as far as I am concerned, the only 'true' martini. And in the original recipe, the proportions included much more vermouth than is used today. It was a much smaller drink (usually about 3oz vs today's vats of booze) and the proportions were 1 part vermouth to 3 parts gin. These days, someone asks for an actual martini (instead of those super sweet chocolate or fruit cocktails that pass for 'martinis' these days) and they want you to essentially just show the bottle of vermouth to the glass, then put it away and pour straight gin (or vodka) into a glass made for a giant.

When I order a martini, I do specify a "vodka martini" with the expectation that if I ask for just "a martini," I'll get gin. With the exception of a shot of gin with a little grenadine around the holidays (tastes like Christmas) I'm not much a fan of drinking my pine trees. Unfortunately, it's hard to find anyone up here that even knows how to make a martini, these days. I've had to explain it more than once, with mixed results.

When I make one at home, it's 5+1 Vodka and extra-dry vermouth, half a splash of brine (half-dirty, if you will) in the glass and swirled, usually with garlic-stuffed olives because they're amazing. Agitated vigorously with ice in a shaker or suitable daylight tank for 3o seconds flat, then promptly strained into the glass with three olives on a spear. The extra time does dilute it a bit, which is good for me because I'll wind up drinking it more slowly overall. I also like the ice flecks.

(That's probably an Alaska thing: we consume the most ice cream in the country per capita, and most of it in December through February. We're weird about frozen things.)
 
I'm willing to accept vodka as a variant, but the original was gin and as far as I am concerned, the only 'true' martini. And in the original recipe, the proportions included much more vermouth than is used today. It was a much smaller drink (usually about 3oz vs today's vats of booze) and the proportions were 1 part vermouth to 3 parts gin. These days, someone asks for an actual martini (instead of those super sweet chocolate or fruit cocktails that pass for 'martinis' these days) and they want you to essentially just show the bottle of vermouth to the glass, then put it away and pour straight gin (or vodka) into a glass made for a giant.

When I order a martini, I do specify a "vodka martini" with the expectation that if I ask for just "a martini," I'll get gin. With the exception of a shot of gin with a little grenadine around the holidays (tastes like Christmas) I'm not much a fan of drinking my pine trees. Unfortunately, it's hard to find anyone up here that even knows how to make a martini, these days. I've had to explain it more than once, with mixed results.

When I make one at home, it's 5+1 Vodka and extra-dry vermouth, half a splash of brine (half-dirty, if you will) in the glass and swirled, usually with garlic-stuffed olives because they're amazing. Agitated vigorously with ice in a shaker or suitable daylight tank for 3o seconds flat, then promptly strained into the glass with three olives on a spear. The extra time does dilute it a bit, which is good for me because I'll wind up drinking it more slowly overall. I also like the ice flecks.

(That's probably an Alaska thing: we consume the most ice cream in the country per capita, and most of it in December through February. We're weird about frozen things.)

You're all right. I like you...so far ;) :D

(Totally with you on the garlic-stuffed olives. Yum!)
 
"I seem to like whatever wine Gary does."

You beat Gary to the punch, lol. Next week Gary will be back in the Paso Robles wine country. :cool-48:

Paso is a great area. Any idea which wineries you'll be visiting?
We’re really going for the Elephant Seals. But we are member’s at Wolff and Saucelito Canyon, so definitely those two for sure. Do you have any recommendations?
 
"I seem to like whatever wine Gary does."

You beat Gary to the punch, lol. Next week Gary will be back in the Paso Robles wine country. :cool-48:

Paso is a great area. Any idea which wineries you'll be visiting?
We’re really going for the Elephant Seals. But we are member’s at Wolff and Saucelito Canyon, so definitely those two for sure. Do you have any recommendations?

I live near Modesto in the Central Valley, so I'm more familiar with the Lodi and foothill wineries in the gold country. I've been to the central coast a couple times, though. Eberle is supposed to be good, but I haven't been there yet, and haven't had their wine, either. Everyone raves about Tobin James, but I was disappointed, but maybe that was because I had high expectations. Both of those are east of Paso Robles. Turley in Templeton makes great wines, but I haven't been to their tasting room. We visited Clesi, also in Templeton, and we liked their wines, primarily Italian varietals. We'll try them again next time we go.

Have you seen the elephant seals before? I read about them last year, but haven't made the trip over to see them. Someday.

Hope you have a great trip. I'd like to hear about it when you get a chance.
 
We saw the elephant seals on our PCH road trip in 2014. Very cool sight. Smelly. I’ll see if I can dig up a photo from that day.
 
Morning, hosers. The D610 is all packaged up for its trip down I95 to NYC.

I picked up a D800 with 30k clicks in great condition for a steal. Should be here early next week.
 
"I seem to like whatever wine Gary does."

You beat Gary to the punch, lol. Next week Gary will be back in the Paso Robles wine country. :cool-48:

Paso is a great area. Any idea which wineries you'll be visiting?
We’re really going for the Elephant Seals. But we are member’s at Wolff and Saucelito Canyon, so definitely those two for sure. Do you have any recommendations?

I live near Modesto in the Central Valley, so I'm more familiar with the Lodi and foothill wineries in the gold country. I've been to the central coast a couple times, though. Eberle is supposed to be good, but I haven't been there yet, and haven't had their wine, either. Everyone raves about Tobin James, but I was disappointed, but maybe that was because I had high expectations. Both of those are east of Paso Robles. Turley in Templeton makes great wines, but I haven't been to their tasting room. We visited Clesi, also in Templeton, and we liked their wines, primarily Italian varietals. We'll try them again next time we go.

Have you seen the elephant seals before? I read about them last year, but haven't made the trip over to see them. Someday.

Hope you have a great trip. I'd like to hear about it when you get a chance.
Mary Lou and Gary have visited many Central California wineries in Lodi and Gold Country. We really enjoyed the Livermore area. Eberle is great. All their wines are above average. Nice picnic area in the back often with music under the patio cover. Tobin James is a place to be seen ... not a place for fine wines. We, my much much better half, Mary Lou and Gary enjoy discovering new wines and chatting with others who enjoy discovering new wines ... but Tobin James was more of a bar/nightclub than a refined wine tasting experience. A couple of Gary's favorite wineries in Paso are Venteux and Justin. Gary rubs his head ... Turley sounds very familiar ... isn't that up in Gold Country? Being in SoCal, the closest wine country is in Temecula or Malibu. The stuff/quality coming out of Malibu sucks.

You gotta check out the Elephant Seals. Hundreds of these huge, ugly, big nosed, hairy slugs slithering across the beach, screwing in the waves and birthing on the sand. The bulls can get as long as 15+ feet and weight in at 6,500 pounds. Simply Extraordinary and Wonderful. The primary public viewing area is on top a hundred foot cliff rendering viewing safe and sane. But if you travel up or down the coast you can get eye-to-eye ... which is hazardous and insane. About now is the height of the Central Coast population and it is loud and smelly. Well worth a drive, take long lenses and binos for the primary viewing. Take a wide and a life insurance policy for an eye-to-eye meeting.
 
We saw the elephant seals on our PCH road trip in 2014. Very cool sight. Smelly. I’ll see if I can dig up a photo from that day.
Wait what? Let's see if Gary got this straight ... you traveled PCH, presumably from SoCal to NorCal ... and at the end of the trip you returned to Boston ... amazing.

:ambivalence:
 
We saw the elephant seals on our PCH road trip in 2014. Very cool sight. Smelly. I’ll see if I can dig up a photo from that day.
Wait what? Let's see if Gary got this straight ... you traveled PCH, presumably from SoCal to NorCal ... and at the end of the trip you returned to Boston ... amazing.

:ambivalence:

I'm sorry, Gary...but California will never be described as "wicked pissah" by a Boston girl.
 

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