The interstate at dusk

[Majeed Badizadegan]

sigh.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Ok, that's your opinion great! I have not seen really anything better from you but that is my opinion. Since you are on attack mode, I really have not seen anything of yours that is strikIng and photo gallery material either. I do think my processing rocks and I am confident with what I do that may come off as arrogant but sorry I am not on here to please you. Look in the mirror and read your CC to people. You come off like a know it all but nothing to show you do!

Did it ever occur to you that maybe it's YOU WHO IS THE PROBLEM? Don't think so? Instead of taking my word for it, how about I cite my sources:

Below is a brief sampling of the way YOU'VE reacted to other users on this board when they react to your images in a critical way (and these were NOT hard to find heaven knows how much douchiness I missed).


From http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...6-desierto-de-la-maravilla-desert-wonder.html

I warned you before Vip he is a dickhead and only looking for trouble. Just ignore him. Better yet use the IGNORE button and you wont hear from him again.

No need to use the ignore button, I'm done replying. [Vip] is an arrogant child whose images lack substance and consequence which wouldn't be at all bad except for your refuses to listen to anything other than praise. I'm not the first one to accuse you of being unable to accept criticism. Perhaps you ought to listen.

From http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/hdr-discussions/266418-la-montana-magica-magic-mountain.html

You talk like you're the only graphic artist on this forum, and you need to stop. Seriously. It's getting super annoying. You're coming across as insufferable and obnoxious and there is a reason people are thinking you're nineteen.

I've been using Photoshop since I was like 12 years old at version 2.0. While I wasn't doing anything too serious with it then, I was when I was at college studying digital imaging with an emphasis on Imaging and Reproduction - this was about when you were just learning. If you are wondering how that time frame worked out, it was because I graduated high school two years early at the age of sixteen. I'm not going to give you a full resume or anything, but you get my drift. You're not the cat's pajamas. You're not the only one here that does this kind of work.

I don't care how much you charge. I don't care how many kids you have. And you have to have seen a comment like that coming your way when you make such chauvinistic remarks as you had here in this thread.

I'll admit I was a little bit overly enthusiastic about the filters. I guess my clients just have had higher standards than a bunch of novelty effects which probably aren't going to be printable anyway.

From http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/hdr-discussions/265944-snowed-desert-today-hdr.html

I have been a graphic artist since 1999 and into photography for about 10 years, thats probably what brings out the heavy processing because I am use to doing so much in adobe PS and Ai.
I never said I was a pro at HDR but I am learning fast and I know where I want to go with it. I do take CC and try to better myself thus why I am posting so many pictures. I normally do portraits where I am completely comfterable confident hence why I do not
post to much in those sections. With HDR I still have room to grow and once I found the exact techniques I need and feel 100% confident in my work, my posting images will most likely go down and Only post those killer shots but, same thing my style/method may still not be something that you or others may like but, I will and so will others who like that same style.

Your image you posted is not bad rather its pretty decent but, not the look that I am headed towards so not to be rude but that does not show me anymore experience. I have viewed through your flickr and you have some cool stuff that I really like and you have stuff that is just hideous. I am not a big fan of those interior toranto hotel/ whatever home it is. Those are very noisy images that could use some noise reduction software and the colors or so fake way to much red talk about keeping it natural yeah OK...but hey that is your style and many I am sure like it. Then you have some really nice shots of industrial places that I say hats off to you excellent work and more of the stuff that I like great stuff!!

I think with the knowledge I have from graphic design, how fast I am learning and the drive that I have to succeed I should hit my goal soon enough. One thing holding be back is really there is not much going on here in Tucson where I live. I mean like so what the Mountains but there not green foresety fantasy land settings.. Our industrial part of town is very small and no underground areas. I have to really hunt around because I think we will both agree on this. HDR is not for every photo and will bring out the best in the right photos.

With that said here is another attempt at a more realistic looking picture (I did this before you posted yours so I thought I would post it anyways)

No offense, I was under the impression you were <18 years old. So far, I haven't seen anything to change my mind.

Until this point, I'd say you haven't taken C&C well. Thus far, you've been here for under a month, exhibited some pretty entry-level photos (antique bike comes to mind), and basically told anyone that gives you C&C "Oh well it's an HDR and it's all artistic expression, and I like it that way."

It is VERY POOR FORM to bring up another person's work to basically make yourself seem "better" than them, or kick them down a notch. You'll probably try and refute that as well and say "Well, I was just trying to exercise a point." Which is not true. Bynx, didn't ask for his Flickr account to be critiqued.

I too have graphic design experience. I worked in pre-press for a few years, and went to school for it. It doesn't translate into knowledge of photography. It translates into a base understanding of how to process images at the beginning. It doesn't teach you photographic composition, exposure, or how to see light.

Furthermore, you chose a cop out of "http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...265873-i-live-very-visually-boring-place.html" to make the pity train stop at your station. Maybe you and Blackrose can meet up and find something visually interesting somewhere?

You say you do portraits as well? I haven't seen you post them. Perhaps you could get some pointers on your portraiture... That is of course, if you haven't already mastered portraiture.

Same thread

No just you! I would know if I am 18 or not I am 37. How I treat my clients and business are totally different on how I treat people like you. They pay they get quality work and customer satisfaction. I graduated from the Art Center in 2001 and yes taking CC is a big deal and I did learn however when you have a presentation in front of classmates and teachers you can hear their voices and they give the good and the bad. It is a professional environment, this forum is not. Yes I am guilty but what came first the chicken or the egg. I think I was defending my self and my perspective. So without your post things would not have gotten this far. I think you enjoy this stuff I really do. I think Bynx is a grown man that can handle himself but instead you chose to be Superman and save the day.

In regards to your pictures,

Camera sitting on a table WOW why didn't someone else ever think about this. You talk about rule of thirds but I don't see it here? Color is good but has to much black. It would nice to see more into the lens. Also the lens is blurry. the white coming from the left onto the camera is a different white than the other side and its a little more harsh and not as soft.

The rainy night looks like your about to get him by a train. There is more space on the girls side than yours its not evenly spaced and it looks like it was supposed to be centered. The light on the ground is over exposed and fades into a purple color. The Green on the left upper side is distracting and keeps my eyes moving up into the corner.

Thats about it.

If you would like to argue more I don't mind and lets take it PM so that the topic can get back on track.

If you had read his explanation about the setup of the first photo, he says that he shot one light through an umbrella and one light bare. Depending on the way that the light is delivered, the temperature can change. He was also well aware of the harshness. He used it to accentuate detail. Soft light...does not accentuate detail. Haven't you ever looked at an editorial photograph?

Maybe 'hit by a train' was the look he was going for? Just like with your picture? It's just personal taste, man. I think you are getting way over your head in terms of skill. I'm sure that your graphic design skills rock, and much of your photography is pretty good, but a lot of it... Is not. Like the portraits. They're not that swell, like Swettylens said. I could give an honest CC but I'm typing from any iPhone and it's not very easy.

Or how about your masterpiece, when you lash at out Bynx (someone who is much more competent and experienced than you) for making your crappy photo look better?

I have been a graphic artist since 1999 and into photography for about 10 years, thats probably what brings out the heavy processing because I am use to doing so much in adobe PS and Ai.
I never said I was a pro at HDR but I am learning fast and I know where I want to go with it. I do take CC and try to better myself thus why I am posting so many pictures. I normally do portraits where I am completely comfterable confident hence why I do not
post to much in those sections. With HDR I still have room to grow and once I found the exact techniques I need and feel 100% confident in my work, my posting images will most likely go down and Only post those killer shots but, same thing my style/method may still not be something that you or others may like but, I will and so will others who like that same style.

Your image you posted is not bad rather its pretty decent but, not the look that I am headed towards so not to be rude but that does not show me anymore experience. I have viewed through your flickr and you have some cool stuff that I really like and you have stuff that is just hideous. I am not a big fan of those interior toranto hotel/ whatever home it is. Those are very noisy images that could use some noise reduction software and the colors or so fake way to much red talk about keeping it natural yeah OK...but hey that is your style and many I am sure like it. Then you have some really nice shots of industrial places that I say hats off to you excellent work and more of the stuff that I like great stuff!!

I think with the knowledge I have from graphic design, how fast I am learning and the drive that I have to succeed I should hit my goal soon enough. One thing holding be back is really there is not much going on here in Tucson where I live. I mean like so what the Mountains but there not green foresety fantasy land settings.. Our industrial part of town is very small and no underground areas. I have to really hunt around because I think we will both agree on this. HDR is not for every photo and will bring out the best in the right photos.

With that said here is another attempt at a more realistic looking picture (I did this before you posted yours so I thought I would post it anyways)

snow road by VIPGraphX, on Flickr

Thanks you have pushed me to grow!:hug::

Vip, it kind of sounds like your babbling. Bynx took your poorly processed original shot and made something very nice of it. You should be thanking him for his edit and advice, especially since you admit you are new to HDR. Instead you are spewing your credentials that are irrelevant to the topic at hand, and worse in parsed English with a passive-aggressive tone. Not only that, you're getting incredibly defensive and saying things like "I'm learning fast" and basically saying advice from others is pointless because you're already too good and too smart. And you will reach your "goals" and achieve the "look" you want and thats that.

You know what it sounds like to me! That you can't accept critique because your ego is too big.

Worst of all after 3 paragraphs of drivel and excuses you top it off by saying "Thanks you have pushed me to grow!:hug:"...?!!!!

Huh? This statement seems to contradict the totality of your entire post up to this point.

So, to sum, you have the reputation of an immature, douchey, 19 year old with poor taste both socially and photographically.

You flood the forums with the same mediocre images twice a day, refuse to accept and implement criticism, and heaven forbid one of your images is negatively received or you'll lash out with the social intelligence of a 5 year old.

Just go away.

 

[rexbobcat]

Sorry. Wrong thread. Several tabs open.

 

[vipgraphx]

Hahahahahaha oooooooooooooo I must of pushed some buttons for you to go digging There are only what a few people who I have not seen eye to eye on and really some of those folks are just as arrogant as me but difference is I can admit it. I apologized to bynx as I saw I was in the wrong. I am really glad that I have such an effect on you that you feel the need to go through many threads trying to make yourself feel better for your lack of .............. Fill in the blank g7..Your a trolling tool!!

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Hahahahahaha oooooooooooooo I must of pushed some buttons for you to go digging There are only what a few people who I have not seen eye to eye on and really some of those folks are just as arrogant as me but difference is I can admit it. I apologized to bynx as I saw I was in the wrong. I am really glad that I have such an effect on you that you feel the need to go through many threads trying to make yourself feel better for your lack of .............. Fill in the blank g7..Your a trolling tool!!

No one is as arrogant or childish as you, don't kid yourself.

And there wasn't much digging involved, you don't have to look very far to find excellent examples of your insufferable foolishness.

 

[Compaq]

Remind me again, dominator, what is the purpose of this pointless digging? What good can possible come from this?

And frankly, dominator, it was you who started this idiotic discussion. You got comments about the tree. I agree, I personally think that tree does not belong there. You call it foreground. It has nothing of the qualities a foreground should have - except being closest to the camera....

"Implying that a g7, g6, or g3 isn't more than capable of producing quality images?"

I'm not sure why you're inferring this. Are you looking for stupid debates? This thread has turned into pointless poking. You didn't handle the critique you were offered, you came off, here, as an ill-inferring troublemaker and you started this debate.

That said, I like you both.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Remind me again, dominator, what is the purpose of this pointless digging? What good can possible come from this?

And frankly, dominator, it was you who started this idiotic discussion. You got comments about the tree. I agree, I personally think that tree does not belong there. You call it foreground. It has nothing of the qualities a foreground should have - except being closest to the camera....

"Implying that a g7, g6, or g3 isn't more than capable of producing quality images?"

I'm not sure why you're inferring this. Are you looking for stupid debates? This thread has turned into pointless poking. You didn't handle the critique you were offered, you came off, here, as an ill-inferring troublemaker and you started this debate.

That said, I like you both.

Lol Compaq, I see what you're trying to say here but I think you've misinterpreted.

I was open and accommodating of VIP's criticism in this thread until he became snide (Derogatory or mocking in an indirect way: "snide remarks") whether it was a joke or not. Admittedly, I wasn't a huge fan of him in the first place but I have always been civil and offered well thought out and constructive criticism to him (most of which goes in one ear and out the other given the same mistakes he makes in photo after photo after photo).

VIP is antagonistic and childish and it's a bit silly of you to make him the victim here. Especially as I've provided a plethora of evidence to the contrary.

That being said I don't dislike you either

 

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[Compaq]

If vip says that his intentions were "snide" and meant to offend, then I won't say another thing. I just think you've had him "defined" already, and that you took his critique wrongly

But frankly, discussions like these never lead to anything good, except some entertainment for the ones who like it. We'd all be better off if it just stopped


edit: post #23 just proved my point

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Ok g7 , g6 , g3 whatever works right?

Ok g7 , g6 , g3 whatever works right?

Not sure what you mean?

You said this shot was taken with a g7 . I was just being g silly , as long as it works in the end. The picture looks good with the g7

I ask for clarification (didn't jump to conclusions) and per his response it is plainly obvious that he is being snide. I don't know how it could be interpreted differently.

If vip says that his intentions were "snide" and meant to offend, then I won't say another thing. I just think you've had him "defined" already, and that you took his critique wrongly

But frankly, discussions like these never lead to anything good, except some entertainment for the ones who like it. We'd all be better off if it just stopped

edit: post #23 just proved my point

This wasn't "critique" this was completely irrelevant to the picture or critique of the picture. It was just yet another tasteless post from him. When he was actually "critiquing" the image I was more than receptive. I even posted a re-edit of the shot per his recommendation. So I don't know why you're making me out to be the bad guy

 

[vipgraphx]

Compaq - thanks for pointing out what you did but clearly some people are blind to truth.

Rotanimod - WOW really you don't see that you started it. So your the victim then? There are people that do and people that don't you fall into the people that don't.

I take pictures and post them as much as possible to get better with processing as that is my number one priority in HDR right now. I would rather have a well processed image then a image that has better composing with crappy processing. You say my mistakes show through my photos well so do yours. ****ty processing and blurry images. Thats what I see in ALL your photos!

When giving CC I have said this time and time again. Its not only the bad it has to be the good as well. When I was in college and we went up for critiques. We had to give CC and had to focus on good and bad so the artist/designer knows what they need to work on and knows what they are doing good so they keep that up. This is how I learned to give and receive CC. Is it the only way NO but its the way that works for me. I try to help as many people as I can and offer feedback to what I like about their photos and dislike but then there are those who just say bluntly that there images suck with nothing in regards to any positive notes. When I am slammed for that YES I will stand my ground. I will defend my honor but, even though you may not see it I do listen I do try to change some. Not everyone has to like me and I do not have to like everyone. There will be some folks that I bond with more and some that I don't. Thats life
and it is everywhere. I am not going to leave unless I get banned. You will not drive me out and I will not give you the justice of driving me away. I will continue to post and if people do not want to respond so be it that is there prerogative. Its very easy to say just leave but what good does that do? You do not think with an attitude like yours that you will never have a problem again with another forum member? Problems are everywhere and if you give it than you should be able to take it but I see that is your biggest issue as that you have a big mouth but thin skin.

 

[Majeed Badizadegan]

Compaq - thanks for pointing out what you did but clearly some people are blind to truth.

Rotanimod - WOW really you don't see that you started it. So your the victim then? There are people that do and people that don't you fall into the people that don't.

I take pictures and post them as much as possible to get better with processing as that is my number one priority in HDR right now. I would rather have a well processed image then a image that has better composing with crappy processing. You say my mistakes show through my photos well so do yours. ****ty processing and blurry images. Thats what I see in ALL your photos!

When giving CC I have said this time and time again. Its not only the bad it has to be the good as well. When I was in college and we went up for critiques. We had to give CC and had to focus on good and bad so the artist/designer knows what they need to work on and knows what they are doing good so they keep that up. This is how I learned to give and receive CC. Is it the only way NO but its the way that works for me. I try to help as many people as I can and offer feedback to what I like about their photos and dislike but then there are those who just say bluntly that there images suck with nothing in regards to any positive notes. When I am slammed for that YES I will stand my ground. I will defend my honor but, even though you may not see it I do listen I do try to change some. Not everyone has to like me and I do not have to like everyone. There will be some folks that I bond with more and some that I don't. Thats life
and it is everywhere. I am not going to leave unless I get banned. You will not drive me out and I will not give you the justice of driving me away. I will continue to post and if people do not want to respond so be it that is there prerogative. Its very easy to say just leave but what good does that do? You do not think with an attitude like yours that you will never have a problem again with another forum member? Problems are everywhere and if you give it than you should be able to take it but I see that is your biggest issue as that you have a big mouth but thin skin.

Sorry, don't want to mince words here, I'll be as frank as possible. You are hopeless to deal with and I don't feel like pursuing the issue any further. Do me a favor, stay out of my threads and I'll steer clear of yours.

Cheers.

 

[o hey tyler]

I for some reason thought I posted in this thread, but I guess I never hit send. Either that, or it got deleted.

Anyways, not to stir the pot further, I will keep my mouth shut.

Rotanimod, I am not sure what the limitations of your camera are as far as manual controls go. But if you can shoot between f/4 and f/8 on a tripod with a much longer shutter at your lowest ISO, I think your photo would pop much more.

Having the cars come into the frame after the shutter is tripped is always good too, if possible. That way your image will look cleaner and won't have stray lines from the tail lights starting or ending out of nowhere.

Others have said that they don't like the trees on the right. I disagree. I think if you made this shot a bit wider, whether by zooming out more, or moving back, the trees could be a very strong compositional element. They just need more breathing room as they are right now.