Time To Upgrade?

[robertwsimpson]

also, what ISO are you using to take a picture faster than 1/4000 with a 500mm and greater lens? dang.

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I am certain the exif information is inaccurate regarding ISO. I know for a fact I set it for H1 (6400) and H2 (12800) for some images but it always indicated 3200 in the exif.

The focal length exif is also inaccurate. Some images I used 2 Kenko 1.4 converters on the lens but that information is not shown in the exif.

I used a monopod for all the shots. I don't like to see a picture of an animal where the animal only uses 10% or 20% of the frame. None of the 3 pictures listed above have been cropped. The Jaguar was shot through some heavy plastic glass so it looks a little milky.

And you were shooting at those ISO's with your XTi how? even at 800, the pictures are barely usable.

I agree, but how much faster than 1/4000 do you want???

Another full stop, 1/8000. I sometimes have the same issue shooting at 500mm on a bright day.

You must be using mammoth ISO settings that my camera is not capable of.

Hmmmm .... maybe you need to upgrade your body too? :lmao:

... sorry ... couldn't resist

I feel sad, having laughed -- but good one.

yeah too much fried chicken is just not very good for you and your body

yes, ease of controls warrants the extra $700 or whatever... on the xti, the only thing you can't adjust while looking through the LCD is the ISO setting. and honestly how often do you need to adjust that?

everything else can be accessed while lining up your shot if you so desire.

uh the price difference between XSI and 40D is less than 200. Back when I decided to buy a 40D over XSI I already had enough money for the Rebel but I chose to work two more weeks to save more money so I will be able to get the better one

Read again. We weren't talking about the XSi OR the 40D, so I don't know why you mentioned either. Also, we weren't talking about YOUR equipment. We were talking about grafxman's.

since clearly you work on insults and arguments, here we go:
according to Amazon.com,
XTi used (with all original accessories)= $419.99
50D used (with all original accessories)= $1,000
I'm sure you can find way more amazing deals than I can, since you are better at the internet than everyone here, but for comparison purposes, the 50D is $580 more than the XTi. Sorry, I am prone to exaggeration.

 

[grafxman]

also, what ISO are you using to take a picture faster than 1/4000 with a 500mm and greater lens? dang.

These may be of interest to you:

IMG_1497a.JPG photo - graphicsguy photos at pbase.com

IMG_1503.JPG photo - graphicsguy photos at pbase.com

IMG_1529.JPG photo - graphicsguy photos at pbase.com

I am certain the exif information is inaccurate regarding ISO. I know for a fact I set it for H1 (6400) and H2 (12800) for some images but it always indicated 3200 in the exif.

The focal length exif is also inaccurate. Some images I used 2 Kenko 1.4 converters on the lens but that information is not shown in the exif.

I used a monopod for all the shots. I don't like to see a picture of an animal where the animal only uses 10% or 20% of the frame. None of the 3 pictures listed above have been cropped. The Jaguar was shot through some heavy plastic glass so it looks a little milky.

And you were shooting at those ISO's with your XTi how? even at 800, the pictures are barely usable.


Robert, you're the guy with the XTi. I'm the guy with the 50D. OK? The images are usable to me. I'm sure you could do better.

Now I'm wondering if you even looked at the images. It says "Canon EOS 50D" at the bottom of each image. The exif information is also available there. Perhaps you overlooked this previous post too which is why I originally posted here:

Quote: Originally Posted by creative_one
Hi Everyone,
How do u know when its time to upgrade to a more advanced DSLR?
How long should a person wait intill they buy a new DSLR (upgrade)?
Any good advice?

Thanks in advance!
I don't know if this is good advice but here goes. The time to upgrade your DSLR is either when no lens you can afford to buy will enable you to take the pictures you want to take or when the new DSLRs have so many features you can't live without them.

For example, I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses. Also, the 50D has live view which is great for macro work. I may never buy another new camera although having another 50D is very attractive so as to have two lenses readily available. It's a nuisance trying to change lenses outdoors when stuff is happening.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

 

[robertwsimpson]

Hi Everyone,
How do u know when its time to upgrade to a more advanced DSLR?
How long should a person wait intill they buy a new DSLR (upgrade)?
Any good advice?

Thanks in advance!

I don't know if this is good advice but here goes. The time to upgrade your DSLR is either when no lens you can afford to buy will enable you to take the pictures you want to take or when the new DSLRs have so many features you can't live without them.

For example, I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses. Also, the 50D has live view which is great for macro work. I may never buy another new camera although having another 50D is very attractive so as to have two lenses readily available. It's a nuisance trying to change lenses outdoors when stuff is happening.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

this is what I was referencing. so please tell me how 1/4000 was too slow on an XTi where the highest ISO settings are rubbish. I don't go above 1/1250 except on VERY rare occasion. No need to get cheeky.

 

[grafxman]

Hi Everyone,
How do u know when its time to upgrade to a more advanced DSLR?
How long should a person wait intill they buy a new DSLR (upgrade)?
Any good advice?

Thanks in advance!

I don't know if this is good advice but here goes. The time to upgrade your DSLR is either when no lens you can afford to buy will enable you to take the pictures you want to take or when the new DSLRs have so many features you can't live without them.

For example, I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses. Also, the 50D has live view which is great for macro work. I may never buy another new camera although having another 50D is very attractive so as to have two lenses readily available. It's a nuisance trying to change lenses outdoors when stuff is happening.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

this is what I was referencing. so please tell me how 1/4000 was too slow on an XTi where the highest ISO settings are rubbish. I don't go above 1/1250 except on VERY rare occasion. No need to get cheeky.

I never said anything about an XTi being rubbish. I said "I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses".

I also mentioned that the 500mm zoom I was using had 2 1.4 Kenko tele converters attached. I think that's around 900mm. When's the last time you shot something with a 900mm lens Robert? You will notice, if you check the exif information, that the lens was wide open at f6.3 and, you may be able to tell from the "barely usable pictures", it was a bright, sunny day.

 

[robertwsimpson]

what in the world?

you're taking everything that I have said in the wrong way. I'm bored.

 

[UUilliam]

I don't know if this is good advice but here goes. The time to upgrade your DSLR is either when no lens you can afford to buy will enable you to take the pictures you want to take or when the new DSLRs have so many features you can't live without them.

For example, I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses. Also, the 50D has live view which is great for macro work. I may never buy another new camera although having another 50D is very attractive so as to have two lenses readily available. It's a nuisance trying to change lenses outdoors when stuff is happening.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

this is what I was referencing. so please tell me how 1/4000 was too slow on an XTi where the highest ISO settings are rubbish. I don't go above 1/1250 except on VERY rare occasion. No need to get cheeky.

I never said anything about an XTi being rubbish. I said "I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses".

I also mentioned that the 500mm zoom I was using had 2 1.4 Kenko tele converters attached. I think that's around 900mm. When's the last time you shot something with a 900mm lens Robert? You will notice, if you check the exif information, that the lens was wide open at f6.3 and, you may be able to tell from the "barely usable pictures", it was a bright, sunny day.

Idk about Xti but my Xsi has a max shutter of 1/4000 which is quick enough...

 

[robertwsimpson]

this is what I was referencing. so please tell me how 1/4000 was too slow on an XTi where the highest ISO settings are rubbish. I don't go above 1/1250 except on VERY rare occasion. No need to get cheeky.

I never said anything about an XTi being rubbish. I said "I bought my latest camera, a Canon 50D because my Canon XTi Rebel had a maximum shutter speed that was too slow for satisfactory use with 500mm and greater lenses".

I also mentioned that the 500mm zoom I was using had 2 1.4 Kenko tele converters attached. I think that's around 900mm. When's the last time you shot something with a 900mm lens Robert? You will notice, if you check the exif information, that the lens was wide open at f6.3 and, you may be able to tell from the "barely usable pictures", it was a bright, sunny day.

Idk about Xti but my Xsi has a max shutter of 1/4000 which is quick enough...

Evidently, if you shoot with giant lenses and 2 teleconverters that let hardly any light through at all, you'll want a much faster shutter.