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uhh that's bad FireCoral...
to all of you who have just quit... do you want to smoke again? or... when you are at pub, drinking a beer... to you feel the desire to lit one?
 
First of, Welcome to the forum and I hope you like it here!

Now down to me being rude (sorry if I offend you, it isnt personal.

FireCoral417 said:
Agh! Ok -- I know I'm new here and I don't want to get off on the wrong foot. I just want to bring a few things to light.

First of all, nothing personal to anyone here, but most (not all) non-smokers are equivalent to the white people who don't want the black people to sit in the front of the bus. You're hateful, prejudice, uncompromising, publicly rude and arrogant.

Im close to saying, "How dare you" but I will stick with just that you are completely wrong...I dont care what you look like sitting at the front of the bus...all I care is about the baby near by coughing its lungs out because of your beloved "White little stick" and the fumes that it creates which puts everyone off.

What if I were to drive my car into a resuturant, and leave it running, so that you cant stand the smell, your asmatic (cant spell sorry) brothers start caughing and spluttering, your mum is upset because it is her birthday dinner, your dads getting wound up because I am so ignorant...does that seem fair?

Dont try to scare people into submitting by saying they are something which is horrible, and remotly linked, thats similar to bullying, and its not how debates should be performed.

Secondly, nothing personal to anyone here, but most (not all) smokers are self-centered, misinformed, unhealthy, and probably a lot more negative adjectives a non-smoker can come up with.

I have nothing to say to that, but I do disagree, smokers are humans, so are none smokers, dont catogorize us otherwise you are doing what you say non smokers are doing in your buss analogy.

Yes, I'm a smoker. Do I wish I was? No. Does it help when people bash me for something I have a hard time quitting? No. Why d smokers find reasons why it's ok to smoke? Because it's easier to keep smoking than to quit and we're trying to come to terms with that. If a woman was unable to have children, it's easier for her to tell people she doesn't like kids than to explain she can't have them. It's kind of the same scenario.

I see your point, and its valid...but surely the answer is not to get into smoking in the first place?

The reason I give why I keep smoking? I enjoy it. There're a million things that can kill you, and you may as well do what you enjoy until you die. If you enjoy having sex... fine do that til you die, even though you can get an STD that may kill you. If you enjoy racing cars, do that even though you can crash. If you enjoy eating hamburgers, eat as many as you want andhave a heart attack. If you like diving, do it as long as you realize you take a risk of getting eaten alive by a shark.

Thing is though, a diver doesnt bring people in the sea with him who dont want to go so they can be eaten by sharks.

It doesn't matter what you do, it can kill you. I'm courteous enough to not smoke around non-smokers because I know it can jeopradize their lives as well. Same reason why I don't drink and drive. Same reason why I don't add salt and butter to what I'm cooking for other people.

Thats good, and smokers like that dont bother me at all.

That's all.... I know someone's gonna have something negative to say anyway though. Since smoking is *such* a crime.

It should be...
 
The computer is not destroying the ozone and giving people like my Dad skin cancer!
Well, it is. I assume that you know how many raw materials go into the construction of a computer. How much has to be sourced and how much energy goes into creating it. The chances of that energy coming from renewable source. I think you'll find they pollute the Earth a lot more than a car. But then, I did here that from experts a few years ago so I'm probably wrong. I've been known to be from time to time.

You are a narrow minded person
If you say so it muct be true! :mrgreen:
Although I must say, your insult would have even more weight to it If you hadn't bumped a thread which was well dead with your views and if you actualy acknowledged someone talking to you about the flaws in your logic and knowledge rather than attack them, if you'd have read my views on smoking which are in this thread (here's a link to help you along) and if you didn't go off on one the moment someone shows that they have a different opinion to you.

but the truth is that if a combustion engine hadn’t been invented then advancements in other forms of transportation would have been made. It’s not as though we would have stopped evolving if the gas powered engine wasn’t around, would have found much more economical and environmentally friendly ways.
Oh, and if you didn't pass off thoughts with no facts as being the law.

How on Earth can you say that? There is no evidence to support what you've just said. Not any that I know of anyway. So please, show me because I'm interested.

I have evolved beyond the need for such items as I am a vegetarian and my food is very easy to sneek up on and catch.
Back then people didn't have the exotic fruits and vegetables (like the humble potatoe here) and weren't able to work the land like we do now. I don't think vegetarianism was much of an option back then...

Yes I agree people need cars, but do we need to all have one? No 1 car per family should be fine.
I love cars. I passed my test a couple of years ago and haven't driven since. I ride a bike to work. Four people live in this house and we have three cars (four if you include the TR6 which gets used once in a blue moon). My dad travels all over the country and has so many tools in the back of his Astra that it looks like the suspension is knackered. He may have to leave at 6am one morning and travel hundreds of miles. The next day he may not have to go anywhere. My sister works at the hospital and leaves at 8am and gets back home at 5pm. Some weekends and evenings she is on 24 hour call out and may have to rush to the hospital at any time. My mum has to go out to work in the afternoons and she also has to drive to the supermarkets and load up with shopping each week. More than a couple of shopping bags.

Explain to me how we'd get by with only one car.



oh gosh I didn't expected that my post will live sooo long. And i started it and now I'd like to tell you something. At the beggining I told yh that I smoke and I don't mind ppl smoking. But now? We have July 2005 almost 8 months since the first post has been written in this thread. And in 2005 I smoke only 1 and a half of a cigarette!!!! I'm so proud of myself that it was only 1 and a half... not 150 or 1500!
:thumbsup:

Congrats Mentos! I can truly relate. It's been almost nine months since I've smoked...and I was a smoker of 16 years.
My parents stopped smoking when I was eight or nine. I think it was partly down to health reasons and also because we were moving house so it seemed like a good time I guess. They managed to quit without any problems. I think I read that anyone can quit if they want to, they just have to pick the right moment. It's down to luck and if you get your timing right you can do it. If you get it wrong, you can't. Something about chemical balance and all that jazz.

When they quit they put on a lot of weight as well. Any ex-smokers notice that? Maybe it's that they had to put something in their mouth in the absence of the fag? Food was an easy option.

Give your hands something to do? Text another virgin mobile for 3p!
:biglaugh:


Indecently, as it's sort of on-topic but off as well. I've had problems breathing lately. My nose feels blocked, at one point it felt like there was a lump in my throat. At times when I've blown my nose in the mornings there has been a little bit of blood. And for the last few days my chest has hurt when I've breathed in. Sort of like when you've been out in the cold air and it aches from the gums in your mouth, down your throat and along your sternum. I'm going to give it a couple of days to see what happens but I'm thinking of going to the doctors. Which is a big thing for me to do. :shock:
I guess smokers could give advice here, if anyone.



Oh, and guys. I know you can be trusted but I just wanted to remind you all to keep things nice. Don't call people names, please don't too offended and please don't spam the thread. If people want to discuss or talk about things, great. If you want to do something else, please don't do it. :)
 
Artemis said:
First of, Welcome to the forum and I hope you like it here!

Now down to me being rude (sorry if I offend you, it isnt personal.



Im close to saying, "How dare you" but I will stick with just that you are completely wrong...I dont care what you look like sitting at the front of the bus...all I care is about the baby near by coughing its lungs out because of your beloved "White little stick" and the fumes that it creates which puts everyone off.

What if I were to drive my car into a resuturant, and leave it running, so that you cant stand the smell, your asmatic (cant spell sorry) brothers start caughing and spluttering, your mum is upset because it is her birthday dinner, your dads getting wound up because I am so ignorant...does that seem fair?

Dont try to scare people into submitting by saying they are something which is horrible, and remotly linked, thats similar to bullying, and its not how debates should be performed.



I have nothing to say to that, but I do disagree, smokers are humans, so are none smokers, dont catogorize us otherwise you are doing what you say non smokers are doing in your buss analogy.



I see your point, and its valid...but surely the answer is not to get into smoking in the first place?



Thing is though, a diver doesnt bring people in the sea with him who dont want to go so they can be eaten by sharks.



Thats good, and smokers like that dont bother me at all.



It should be...

All I'm gonna say, is, Artemis, you took the words right out of my mouth..."how dare you" pretty much explains my feelings, too.

That, and WILL THIS THREAD PLEASE DIE!!!! It died several months ago FOR A REASON! And it should have STAYED DEAD! NOW DROP IT PLEASE!

Thank you, and have a nice day!
 
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remember kids...

arguing on the net is about as worthwhile as trying to bite your own ear.

the thread has died, move on.
 
BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!

EHMON HAS A PLACE TO RANT WITH ALL OF HIS 22 POSTS!!!!

AND MENTOS CAN NOW TALK ABOUT SMOKING!!!! YAY!!

IM NO LONGER MODERATING THIS BOARD OR ANY PART OF THIS FORUM.
 
... eating MD.... you're very tasty :)
thank you... and maybe now I'll explain why I wanted this thread back (no, no because I wrote the first post here). I think that the argument above was really intelligent. People should be able to share their views and if somebody just don't want to read this thread it will die by its own. I suppose that someone was still interested in it when he/she digged it out after a few months...

So I see no point in closing this thread. If you want to discuss smoking here, just do it. But please do not offend each other. Arguing sometimes is very important, it teaches us how to negotiate and come up with intelligent points and conclusions!
 
MDowdey said:
BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND!!!

EHMON HAS A PLACE TO RANT WITH ALL OF HIS 22 POSTS!!!!

AND MENTOS CAN NOW TALK ABOUT SMOKING!!!! YAY!!

IM NO LONGER MODERATING THIS BOARD OR ANY PART OF THIS FORUM.

Awww man!! oh yeah well i find you "to be arrogant, simple minded, and judgmental"...you freak!!! :hugs:
 
EHMON WHERE ARE YOU? WE NEED YOU IN HERE TO ARGUE YOUR POINT OVER AN INTERNET CHAT ROOM SOME MORE!!!!!!
 
You know, I've decided to start smoking now. The smokers have talked me into it.

No, wait, now I've changed my mind. I'm going to quit smoking, the non-smokers are right.

Err no, damn, I can't decide. :lol:
 
MDowdey said:
EAT ME AGAIN :)

Shall we debate the addiction of "Eating MD" and the possibilities of disease to follow...
 
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