Vinyl

[Josh66]

So, vinyl seems to be making a comeback in the last few years... I go to Hastings probably every other week, and I've noticed that they have a substantial vinyl selection - new stuff too.

Within the next week, I think I'm looking at buying a decent turntable and a few records. Tax refund at work, lol.

Anyone else prefer vinyl over CDs or MP3s?

 

[BrianV]

There are alot of recodings that never made it to CD and beyond.

That- an CD's delaminate (sp?) and cannot be recovered. With a record: It's analog, will still play unless warped by heat, scratches and pops can be cleaned up digitally. Kind of Sad- records bought in the 60s play better than CD's bought in the 80s. Most of my stuff is on vinyl.

Just youtube searched for "Michael Jones Sunscapes". got "do you mean Michael Jones Seascapes". I have that one, too.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Kind of Sad- records bought in the 60s play better than CD's bought in the 80s.

Hmmm...CD's were highly portable, and exposed to much more abuse than vinyl ever was.
I highly doubt CD's cared for in the same manner as vinyl play worse than vinyl of the 60's.

 

[Josh66]

records bought in the 60s play better than CD's bought in the 80s. Most of my stuff is on vinyl.

Were there CD's in the 80's?

I was still using cassettes in the 80's, and even into the early 90's...

edit
apparently CDs came out in like '82 - damn. I don't remember having one till like '92, lol. (Maybe a little earlier.)

I can't remember when CDs replaced tapes for me, but I'm thinking early 90's...

Somewhere between Guns N' Roses' Appetite For Destruction & Offspring's Smash is when I switched. I remember buying Appetite as a cassette, and Smash as a CD...

 

[terri35 6]

This place has gotten plenty of cash from me. Lots of 180 gram, lots of selection. :heart:

 

[BrianV]

The ones I have: self destructed. Deterioration of the media, not from scratches or portable use. Kept in a jewel case, used in the house, make a copy to cassette for the car. CD's and DVD's can get scratched, and smudges.

Listening to a 30 year old LP now, Windham Hill '82.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Hmmm...ALL of yours have self destructed?

I have over 900 CD's and the only problems are from poor handling.
I call bull****.

 

[BrianV]

You call bull****. Whatever.

Not all, but ones bought in the 80s. I've had a couple of DVD's start to separate as well.

It's a coating- of sorts. Separation occurs. They are not "forever". It's like anything- if you have a shelf life of 50 years, some are going to breakdown at 25. Being "out of print", harder to replace.

From your avatar, you look like you are old enough to know better. New Order, Power Corruption and Lies; Yes, Close to the Edge.

 

[Mully]

I have 3200 CD's in fabric cases and have no problems with separation... I have all this music on HD so I don't play them much ...just store them

 

[CCericola]

I remember my uncle had a Bon Jovi CD of "Slippery When Wet" that was 1986

 

[Awiserbud]

early CD's i recal were prone to a deteriation problem, it was something to do with the manufacturing materials used. sunlight and temperature could affect the lifespan.
I still have a substantial collection of Vinyl from the late 70's early 80's. I used to be a DJ and often bought white label and imported Vinyl from London.
Occasionally a few get played on my Rega Planer 2 turntable.

 

[BrianV]

All people have to do is google shelf life of CD recordings. They, like anything, are not forever. If the recording material starts separating, the player will fail to play it. We're hitting the 35 year mark of media that was stated to have a 50 year shelf life. Separation on a CD is "like" an LP warping. My "Tommy" LP bit the big one from warping, a couple of my 1980s CD's from separation. Like on my 1950s Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar that used an early synthetic cement instead of Canada Balsam.

My 50+ year old "Little Train that Could" album that I got for Christmas ~1962 has a lot of scratches in it, but still plays. I was not very gentle with it, and drove the parents and siblings crazy playing it over and over.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

Oh. I see what your argument is. It's merely that the vinyl disc will still play, and sound quality is removed from the equation.

Fine. I concede. You win.

Well, until we add sound quality to the equation. But that's not what listening to music is about. Sound quality. No. It's about longevity of the media.

All hail Vinyl! It will last forever*!


*with degraded sound quality

 

[BrianV]

What I simply stated was a couple of my CD's failed completely, and the Vinyl records play. Modern noise reduction software cleaned up the sound from the old LP. No Bull****.

In 100 years, I will not be around to know which ones survive.

 

[Awiserbud]

I also have some "burnt" cd's from the 90's and 2000's, many containing old software programs, mp3's and so on, some of them are unreadable now yet they look perfect, no scratches etc. first generation recordable CD's were awful. (or maybe i just bought cheap ones)
There is something magical about lowering that needle onto vinyl, yes the sound quality was nothing compared to digital, but some albums just sound better that way, put through a decent amplifier and speakers its a sound that digital just can't compare to.
Listening to music used to be a joy, buying an album and opening it for the first time, reading the sleeve notes as the first track played was something that has got lost thesedays.
where is the fun in clicking "download"? when i used to buy vinyl i would listen to a few seconds of each track in the record store, flip through hundreds of LP's looking for something new or exciting to buy. it was an occasion buying music back then, thesedays its a convenience.