Wholly C&C Batman!

[Robin Usagani]

AND... I cant even LIKES anyones posts on the iPhone during the day.

So there.

Yes you can.. It takes skill though! LOL. Just put your finger where you think the like is, it will show up. Dont use the App.

 

[Big Mike]

I haven't read through the 200 posts of this thread, but I'll stick my nose in, right about here....

...as well as some additional posting requirements for that section. Not just numbering your photos, but perhaps listing settings used for the capture(to ensure a minimum level of homework done), an maybe a sentence or two giving an intent behind the image as well as self-critique.

That's required at several other forums I have visited.

That would be certainly requirement if we had a C&C subsection. The way I see it beginners only became the C&C area as a result of a choice to allow photos to be posted there since so many beginners would stick photos in there rather than in the galleries. It's a bit of a dividing point since on the one hand many beginner questions often directly relate to photos they've taken (even if their opening post has no photos many giving advise ask to see them); whilst on the other restricting photos in that section increases the moderator burden to shift them around into the right areas.

The thing is if we start to make critique more pro in the beginners section its giving a very heavy bias toward beginners to get critique. As a result intermediate and advanced level photographers are going to follow suit and the beginners area will increase in popularity as a place for people to simply put their C&C photos (because it will be where the critique is given and where proper posting for it is enforced).

Most of you haven't been around here long enough to remember the several different incarnations of the 'critique section'. We have tried it a few different ways, and it always melted down into a big mess...often with a lot of bad feelings. A big part of the issue was moderation. The more rules we put in, the more heavily it has to be moderated. It's not about the amount of work required (although that's certainly as issue), it's about the mods having to make so many judgements on people's comments and trying to interpret their intentions (in terms of the rules of the critique section).

So that's why it's been 'on the shelf' for the last several years.

I would think that we are still open to the idea of adding a specific critique section, but nobody has really come forward with a concrete idea of how to run it (in a way that hasn't already been tried and failed).

 

[sm4him]

Just read every single post in this thread, all at once (yeah, don't ask how long that took...) and here is my insightful assessment of the whole affair:

Some of ya'll need to get out and breath some fresh air.

 

[unpopular]

On the other photoforum they have a critique section. I really didn't like it. It makes things really complicated, and nobody is really sure where the boundary is. Is it ok to critique images in the gallery section? Should critiques only go into the critique section? If I can't critique images in the gallery section, what is there to discuss?

In the end, you get a hodgepodge of themeless images without any sense of context asking for critique. Do I critique this image as if it were an abstract? Do I critique this one as if it was a documentary? Do I critique this one as if it were a landscape? It's really hard to critique images without any basis of their intent. And the gallery section became endless pages of :thumbup:

(except on mine ofcourse)

Photo.net has a "no words" section filled with "street photographs" of young women's panties, taken by rich old dudes with Leicas. I don't really understand the no words section. but if it gives a place for people to go if their too much of an cold noodle to receive feedback, I'm ok with it.

As for the 1000+ Club, that would be awsome

 

[Overread17 5]

I would think that we are still open to the idea of adding a specific critique section, but nobody has really come forward with a concrete idea of how to run it (in a way that hasn't already been tried and failed).

I'd be up for opening one just to take the C&C posts out of Beginners (dumping ground) and even the field to all can ask for C&C. Even without any additional rules or regulations over the section as just something to break up the post structure. If it were made as a separate subsection we could then add something like a "pro critique" which would be more heavily moderated. It at least gets around the fact that this is about the only large site on the net without a dedicated section specifically for critique.

 

[Big Mike]

We can certainly talk it over among the mod/admin team.

 

[naptime]

a "no words" section filled with "street photographs" of young women's panties, taken by rich old dudes with Leicas.

As for the 1000+ Club, that would be awsome

i'm having trouble finding that thread. please help :hug::



a 1000+ club.. hmmmmmmmm gimme a week

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

AND... I cant even LIKES anyones posts on the iPhone during the day.

So there.

Yes you can.. It takes skill though! LOL. Just put your finger where you think the like is, it will show up. Dont use the App.

And you have to sorta double tap it, then it takes you to the top of the page. So then you have to scroll back down to continue reading. It's a PITA, really. LOL

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

As a result intermediate and advanced level photographers are going to follow suit and the beginners area will increase in popularity as a place for people to simply put their C&C photos (because it will be where the critique is given and where proper posting for it is enforced).

The Beginner's forum has *already* become "a dumping grounds" for C&C requests!!!

When does one gradute to the "intermediate" or "advanced" level? I know I'm not ready (no where near ready) but I've always wondered if it's a self graduated program (when the poster feels they are ready) or are you asked to start posting in the next level up? Curious minds want to know

You upgrade when someone asks why you just posted in the beginner section. LOL

 

[GeorgieGirl]

eacesign:I'm home now and I have a whole lotta Likin' to do!!!

 

[jake337]

The Beginner's forum has *already* become "a dumping grounds" for C&C requests!!!

When does one gradute to the "intermediate" or "advanced" level? I know I'm not ready (no where near ready) but I've always wondered if it's a self graduated program (when the poster feels they are ready) or are you asked to start posting in the next level up? Curious minds want to know

You upgrade when someone asks why you just posted in the beginner section. LOL

There are "intermediate" and "advanced" level sections?


I was going to say the opposite, post in the advanced section and they'll let you know if you should be there or not.

 

[Overread17 5]

Just a note - but no more likes for Bitter --- he's reached his countdown and now has to wait a whole year before he's allowed any more likes!

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Just a note - but no more likes for Bitter --- he's reached his countdown and now has to wait a whole year before he's allowed any more likes!

Jealous???? :badangel:

 

[Overread17 5]

Just a note - but no more likes for Bitter --- he's reached his countdown and now has to wait a whole year before he's allowed any more likes!

Jealous???? :badangel:

Naws - but its bad for forum moral with him being liked soo much above the rest of us mortals


(asides if I were jealous I could cheat --- )

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Just a note - but no more likes for Bitter --- he's reached his countdown and now has to wait a whole year before he's allowed any more likes!

Jealous???? :badangel:

Naws - but its bad for forum moral with him being liked soo much above the rest of us mortals


(asides if I were jealous I could cheat --- )

Over...here in the US they have decided that its not OK to give everyone on the team a trophy just for playing...