Wholly C&C Batman!

[Bitter Jeweler]

I'm here for the "like's" of it!

 

[unpopular]

OMG THE SUN.

later guys

 

[dwightdegroff]

I'm mostly a lurker here, just taking note of the CC that other people get and trying to apply it to my own photography. That said, I have noticed that posters who take the time to post what their intentions were surrounding the photo, some thought process, etc. seem to enable other members to post more meaningful feedback.

Back on the first or second page it was suggested that a separate "Beginner's C&C" sub-section be opened. I think that would be a great idea, as well as some additional posting requirements for that section. Not just numbering your photos, but perhaps listing settings used for the capture(to ensure a minimum level of homework done), an maybe a sentence or two giving an intent behind the image as well as self-critique.

I think that would go a long way towards achieving the following goals:
1. Posters put effort into the process: getting to know their own photos before asking other people to do the same
2. Give others an immediate indication that the poster is serious about the process and is not simply looking for a "pat on the back".
3. Posters will not have to worry about their good-intentioned posts being lost in the jungle of dreaded "snapshots" (the horror - lol)


People who are only looking for an audience can continue posting in the beginners section as they do now, and veterans looking to help new members know where to go to have the best impact.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

...as well as some additional posting requirements for that section. Not just numbering your photos, but perhaps listing settings used for the capture(to ensure a minimum level of homework done), an maybe a sentence or two giving an intent behind the image as well as self-critique.

That's required at several other forums I have visited.

 

[Overread17 5]

...as well as some additional posting requirements for that section. Not just numbering your photos, but perhaps listing settings used for the capture(to ensure a minimum level of homework done), an maybe a sentence or two giving an intent behind the image as well as self-critique.

That's required at several other forums I have visited.

That would be certainly requirement if we had a C&C subsection. The way I see it beginners only became the C&C area as a result of a choice to allow photos to be posted there since so many beginners would stick photos in there rather than in the galleries. It's a bit of a dividing point since on the one hand many beginner questions often directly relate to photos they've taken (even if their opening post has no photos many giving advise ask to see them); whilst on the other restricting photos in that section increases the moderator burden to shift them around into the right areas.

The thing is if we start to make critique more pro in the beginners section its giving a very heavy bias toward beginners to get critique. As a result intermediate and advanced level photographers are going to follow suit and the beginners area will increase in popularity as a place for people to simply put their C&C photos (because it will be where the critique is given and where proper posting for it is enforced).

 

[Derrel]

As a result intermediate and advanced level photographers are going to follow suit and the beginners area will increase in popularity as a place for people to simply put their C&C photos (because it will be where the critique is given and where proper posting for it is enforced).

The Beginner's forum has *already* become "a dumping grounds" for C&C requests!!!

 

[MWC2]

As a result intermediate and advanced level photographers are going to follow suit and the beginners area will increase in popularity as a place for people to simply put their C&C photos (because it will be where the critique is given and where proper posting for it is enforced).

The Beginner's forum has *already* become "a dumping grounds" for C&C requests!!!

When does one gradute to the "intermediate" or "advanced" level? I know I'm not ready (no where near ready) but I've always wondered if it's a self graduated program (when the poster feels they are ready) or are you asked to start posting in the next level up? Curious minds want to know

 

[Demers18]

I just finished counting 26 threads (out of 40), requesting C&C on a total of 73 photos here in the Beginners forum section.

That all adds up to asking other forum members to do a lot of work.

Consequently, few are actually getting any worthwhile C&C.

So what do you suggest we do?

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Do some reading. This sticky thread is on the Beginners forum page: http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...rum-photo-gallery/123160-tutorial-thread.html

I repeatedly post these links, often several times a day:
Digital Photography Tutorials

10 Top Photography Composition Rules | Photography Mad

Advanced Composition -- Part I

I have a link to my Blog - How Do I Use My Digital SLR - down there in my siggy ↓ ↓ ↓ ↓

I have read most of those and will continually refer to them, thank you for posting them.
I remember you mentioning those in another thread when I first joined the forum and I read them, even the one in your signature and they helped. I am also in the process of reading Bryan Peterson's: Understanding Photography Field Guide for technique and The Art of Photography: An Approach to Personal Expression by Bruce Barnbaum for composition and better understanding the art of it all. Not to mention all the youtube video's and other blogs tips, tutorials I can find.
I've learned to not post too many images for CC as it's simply too much. I like to think that I've improved just from posting on here and and taking the CC that was provided and applying it the next time I shoot.
I can read all the books I want and learn and apply all that I am learning but that will only take you so far. Constructive Criticism aka CC, will help you realize that yes your shots are getting better, but how do you improve on those and or what am I missing to make that shot great. When you read the book, you can only interpret in the best of your ability and the CC helps guide you in the direction you may not have though of.
Anyway, I know I'm probably rambling on here but I feel strongly about this as for me, the books, blogs tutorials are great but I learn more from trial and error combined with honest critique and guidance than strictly from reading(also doing the exercises as you read).
We all learn differently

 

[jwbryson1]

"Wholly" C&C Batman!!! Pretty darned clever joke there Keith!!!

Yeah, the C&C thing has become just simply HUGE in the Beginner's Forum...I was attributing it to new cameras and the Christmas season, and such. I admit, the FLOOD of requests for C&C has sort of numbed my senses...just...too..many...requests...every...day....they....never...seeem...to...stop....

For the record, I've never met anybody, ANYBODY, ANYBODY who loves periods (.....) as much as Derrell. That is all. Carry on.......

 

[jwbryson1]

I'm here for the "like's" of it!

Your "like" to "posts" percentage is BITCHIN' dude.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Plus most of the regulars are just letting of steam/trolling/filling in time whilst they should be working/waiting for the kettle to whistle.

We get these threads from time to time, and whilst the debate can get a little heated its generally a pressure release for many to let of a little steam.

Interesting.

How I see the issue is that this site is a resource. Like the Encyclopedia Britanica.

You have to read and research the question or topic and then understand what you are reading.

This is only one place to do that among many, many others.

No one here is paid to read anything to anybody and no one that comes here has the right to expect undivided attention. It's a resource room.

If someone wants to post a photo and ask for advice they can as well, but insist on responses or get whiney because there are none or few or they don't like what they heard? Go to the public library then and see if you can do better.

Yes we have other work to do and because we like to be able to offer help to others is why some of us do take the time to volunteer to offer that help and can include a little thing called encouragement from time to time for the person when it's warranted.

 

[MLeeK]

So happy to be of service!

Now I have to go shoot. These damn clients are cutting into my TPF time. This sucks.

What? You're going to leave us just to go off and take a paying job to make money so you can live??? Lame excuse!!! Geezzz... talk about a lack of dedication!

If only I could figure out how to make TPF actually pay. *SIGH*
And I have to do it again this evening. WHY my mortgage thinks it needs paid every damn month is beyond me. Jeesh. I just paid the darned thing a few weeks ago. Don't I ever get a break???

 

[GeorgieGirl]

Let me add that I engage in more idle dialog during the work day than critique as I don't value what I see on the iPhone while at work as a truly fair method of seeing a shot.

 

[GeorgieGirl]

AND... I cant even LIKES anyones posts on the iPhone during the day. Talk about a giant waste of a workday.

So there.

 

[Robin Usagani]

Soon this thread will have more "likes" than girls of TPF. Maybe it does already?

I'm here for the "like's" of it!