Young finches - green or chaff?

[Fangman]

Thought this was a greenfinch

Then not so sure about this.

Definitely GREEN

And the usual near miss of a Blue!

The young finches from this morning all loook as depressed as me with the weather - down tof2.8 or 4.5 in the drizzle at iso 200

 

[Chris of Arabia]

Hazarding that those are greenfinches, but would agree that they are quite difficult to pick apart.