At a photographic crossroads

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  1. Ripskip

    Ripskip TPF Noob!

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    So here I stand at my first crossroads as a photographer. I began shooting more seriously this year with a Nikon D70 and 55-200. Being a motocross photographer, it was clear that this setup isn't/wasn't going to cut it.

    So I picked up a mint 80-200 f/2.8 AFS...and it has been a great upgrade for me. The clarity is second to none and there is no way I could go back. I had the chance to shoot a D2Xs with a 300 fixed, and when I went back to my setup it made me realize that I had a long way to go before I reach the level of quality I'm after. My biggest complaint is that the D70 hardware is so antiquated in terms of autofocus detection. I have lost so many otherwise good shots due to slow/underperforming autofocus. I've tried numerous settings, but to no avail.

    So here I am. My thrifty side says to buy used, and perhaps buy a generation previous to the current model. However, i realize you get what you pay for, and therefore I want to avoid a cropped frame camera like the D200 or D300. My question is, where does that leave me? Is the difference between the D2X and D2Xs big enough to pay the difference? Or, am I better off biting the bullet and getting the D3 and hanging onto it longer? I have started selling my photos for commercial print/web advertising, so the quality of the photo is becoming far more important then if they were for my own enjoyment.

    Any advice would be much appreciated!
     
  2. You also need to work on your technique a little bit. Turn off AF for a while. If you're shooting racing, you know roughly where the person is going to go through the shot. If AF is off, it's not hunting around. Don't shoot wide open, shoot at f/5.6 or f/8, and DOF will ensure you nail the shot until you learn to anticipate the racer.
     
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    Yup! Pre-setup the shot, wait for the action and squeeze off a sequence - even for background blur it's the same. Usually a body with a fast frame rate is considered a major plus. The D300 is pretty quick at 6fps. The D700 is 5fps and with the optional battery pack is a whopping 8fps. The D3 is 9 and 11 fps respectively but with a pretty big price jump. My old D2x was 5fps but with a crop to 7mp it could do 8fps.

    (since you're already into Nikon)


    As for a comparison between the D70 :)lol:) and the D2x see: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/com..._d2x,nikon_d2xs,nikon_d70,nikon_d70s&show=all
     
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    Umm...About the cropped frame, if i'm not mistaken, the d2 and d2x are both cropped frame, not full frame. Also, the d300 and d200 are both amazing cameras, also with a much faster autofusing system then the d70. The d700 as mentioned is the cheapest nikon full frame camera. The d300 would most likely (many agree) outperform the d2x and will provide all the quality needed for pro shots. If you do insist on full frame however, the d700 and d3 are both great options, only you can decide however if the d3's extra features are worth it to you.
     
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    I'm really fascinated about rally photography, too. Nice and hard in the same time. Good luck!
     
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    well, here's a bit of an update:

    Talk about a foot in mouth moment! I stand corrected regarding the D2X and D2XS...both are cropped frame. One thing that I didn't consider is that by going to a full frame, I am going to lose some of the effective zoom of my 80-200. Quite a bit actually.

    So here is my new plan of attack: Since the D300 has virtually identical resolution and AF hardware, my best bet would be to purchase a D300 to use with my 80-200. If/when my photo career takes off and I can afford the D3, pick up a D3 (or whatever the current model is) along with a 300mm fixed to go along with it, then use the D300 as a really solid backup.

    That seems to be the most efficient and cost effective solution to my quandry...any thoughts?
     
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    Just so you know, you dont actually get any more zoom with a cropped sensor, the field of view is smaller, and it appears you have more zoom. But it doesnt actually zoom any closer, its still 80-200,, it looks like, idk what it is like 160-400? Also, I think by going with the d300 yoiu have made a good choice.
     
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    Gotta go with Iron and Bif on this. Technique is far more important then a fast auto focus. F8 is razor sharp with plenty of depth. I rather bump up the asa or drag the shutter and create a bit of motion than have the confounded auto focus lock on the background or hunt and miss the shot all together. A big brite viewfinder is the best focus tool you can have.
     
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    Sounds like a plan. D300 is a very nice camera! :thumbup: Miles and miles above and beyond the D70 you were talking about. ;)
     
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    WOW


    you all are pro.

    :lovey::lovey:
     
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    I don't know the best way to explain that! "Effective" zoom is the best way I can put it. The cropped frame obviously doesn't zoom more, but it does change the "effective" zoom perspective, no?

    My technique is clearly the biggest improvement that I can gain, and for free at that!! However having the best platform to do that on I feel is equally important.

    Thanks for all of your feedback and I will keep you posted!
     

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