I didn't want to hijack Groupcaptainbonzo's thread, So here I offer up a few examples of what I call pleasing bokeh from three differant lenses. Enjoy and hope it starts a good discussion. 1) This one the background is almost all the same color, but trees and foliage are OOF in a pleasing way I believe. BTW it is a white lion, it's color is correct. Nikon D1X, Nikkor 300mm f/2.8 AFS @ f/2.8 2) This was shot w/Nikon D1X, Nikkor 35-70 f/2.8 @ 70mm - f/8 3) Nikon D1X, Nikkor MF 400mm f/3.5 @ f/4.0 and TC14 teleconverter 4) Repost of a shot taken this past week. Also shot w/Nikon D1X, Nikkor MF 400mm f/3.5 @ f/3.5. Hand held, no tele-converter, at about 16 feet in the rain.