Film Photography???

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  1. Canosonic

    Canosonic TPF Noob!

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    Until now I was mainly interested in digital photography, though now I am interested in going in to ANALOG. Can anyone point where to start? Website? Literature? Can I use my bathroom for a darkroom?:lol:
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    Film, you say? Hang on, let me put my spectacles on and sit down on the chesterfield. I think I set that information on the credenza.
     
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    Hi Canosonic. ^^ Ignore useless wisecracks like these. They are borne of ignorance and a narrow view of photography.

    You'll get much more help visiting TPF's film photography forums. Everything from general discussion to specific darkroom tips to be found. We also have a complete beginner's guide to B&W photography in the Articles of Interest forum (near the top of the main page). The author is also a member and ready to help.

    Millions of people worldwide still use film, so you're hardly alone. ;) Don't sweat it. Just go with what feels right for your photography experience. APUG is a forum devoted entirely to analog.

    And yes, a bathroom can actually make a pretty darn good darkroom, btw. :thumbup: Have fun!
     
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    It's a facetious comment to illustrate the fact film is rapidly growing into an anachronism. Kodachrome is gone. Other film lines are dwindling. Processing chemicals are getting expensive. Fewer and fewer people are processing and printing.

    Yeah, you could probably buy some used stuff real cheap now... even development equipment, but there's a reason why. It's at the very end of the era.
     
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    you'll prob have to delete the "low budget" part from your sig
     
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    Try APUG.org, they are an all-analog site and many people there are dedicated to helping people get started using film. I've got some info on my site here about what you need to get started.

    And yes, you can use your bathroom for a darkroom (I do, and it works great). Curtain backing, or blackout fabric, makes a nice curtain to cover the door (on the outside), and then a rolled towel underneath should finish you up (unless you have a window too). I have a window that is covered with the same fabric. I've used gaffers tape to stick it to the wall because gaffers tape does not leave an residue and it wont damage the paint either.

    - Randy
     
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    What's your source for this? I've read that film sales have leveled out and I can point you to a couple of new Kodak emulsions introduced in just the last year. Then you have the new papers coming out of Europe, the re-introduction of the Agfa chemical and paper line, and more. There are now more chemicals, films, and papers than there were 10 years ago. Just because you don't like film is not a reason to try to prevent others from making that choice. Either post legitimate sources for your sweeping generalizations or don't post anything...

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    Canosonic,
    Look for darkroom supplies and set-ups on craigslist or at yard sales...complete darkrooms, often with good enlargers like Beseler 23 CII or Omega D2, enlarging easels, paper safe, safelight,etc,etc are selling for incredibly low prices, like $100 to $40 for an entire B&W capable darkroom.

    Not many people are doing home darkroom work any more,and the values/prices are so low people are actually giving their darkrooms away--I donated mine, with an Omega D2, trays, glass bottles, Omega timers, to Goodwill.

    I have always liked Freestyle Photo, where you can buy all sorts of great film stuff.
    Freestyle Photographic Supplies - Traditional Black & White Film, Paper, Chemicals, Holgas and ULF
     
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    Where have you read that film sales have leveled out? Could you please post a legitimate source for this?

    I don't remember saying that I don't like film. I started on film over 35 years ago and enjoyed it for many years. The fact remains though that with Kodachrome about gone and Ektar film remaining, you're going to pay more for film and developing.

    And who was trying to prevent anything? It cannot be denied that the numbers don't support anyone saying 35mm film and developing is static or growing. Kodak is saying the opposite.

    Fuji is concerned as well.

    So, no one is trying to "prevent" someone from making a choice. I am trying to drive home the fact film is declining and might not be a wise economic choice. I'd hate to see someone spend a lot of money on gear that may be unusable in a few years.

    I wish film photography was as strong as ever. I'd love to have another Canon AE-1 or AE-1 Program. I had a lot of fun taking shots back in the 80s. I don't believe it's reasonable to expect film support to last more than 5 more years at the outside. I also wish bigblock V8 cars were at my local Dodge dealership. It ain't happening. We can enjoy technology in it's day, but we have to be realistic about technology evolving. And sometimes that means cherished things like film photography passing in favor of digital.
     
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    According to one lab owner in 2007, it seems as if film sales by 2007 had declined about 75% since the peak in 1999,and decreased 20 to 30 percent annually over four consecutive years.

    Film Sales Statistics - How Much Has Digital Cameras Affected Film Sales? - Yahoo! Answers

    According to the New York Times http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/09/business/09film.html?ref=business

    In this article, a senior FujiFilm official told the Times that 800 million rolls of film were sold in 1999, the peak of film usage. In 2006 however, only 204 million rolls of film were sold. And the article also states, "The Eastman Kodak Company’s film business has plummeted, and the company has spent the last few years making a transition to digital technology."

    Any talk about film making a "comeback",etc. is wishful thinking. Numerous film and darkroom products have been discontinued. Kodak itself has stopped making all film cameras. Not a single,significant film camera has been released over the past four years. Film is fun to work with,and a wonderful way to capture images, but it is clear that the vast majority of images are being captured using digital technology. I think film will be around for quite some time, just like cassette tapes were available or many years, well after the capture medium had lost favor to digitally captured sound.
     
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