Nikon D3100

Discussion in 'Nikon Cameras' started by Vesie, Oct 28, 2017.

  1. Designer

    Designer Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    Hey, Vesie!

    How about a personal anecdote?

    Last year about this same time of year, I changed my camera from an entry-level D5000 to the very capable D7100. I had several reasons for the change, one of which was the screw drive autofocus. I wanted to be able to use some of the older lenses that can be had very affordably, but the D5000 cannot focus them. There were other factors involved as well, such as the magnesium chassis, dual card slots, Nikon CLS commander mode, auto focus fine tuning, etc.

    Since some folks on here nix the upgrade for pragmatic concerns, but I will add this:

    When you invest money and make the commitment to upgrade, you get a "shot in the arm" kind of morale boost, and find yourself motivated to learn more and do more. This is over and above the practical considerations of "is your current camera good enough?" I say go for the upgrade, as long as you can afford it.

    Oh, and have fun with it!


     
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    The OP is likely gone. They were given advise and took it, nobody knows what type of photos they take or what lenses they own or if they own a flash or even need one. They were told that a d3100 is old tech and it is. Dxomark gives the camera a low mark in comparison to newer models blah blah.

    I don't know guys, it makes no difference to me as I'm at home just enjoying the photo forum, but recommending a certain upgrade without knowing a little bit more seems self serving (oh o got a blah blah and it's better blah blah). It's also ok for someone to have a different opinion without the need to get almost insulted.

    Come on, it's a job for some, a hobby for others and a bit of fun. This thread got not nice for no reason
     
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    HERE's a GREAT example of what a modern, current Nikon DX camera could offer the OP: THREE and ONE-THIRD more f/stops' worth of dynamic range...as well as ZERO pattern banding on horribly under-exposed and thens rescued .NEF images...

    The D7100 was a fine camera, but had pattern banding on rescued under-=exposed shots; the D7200 was/is an absolutely state-of-the-are APS-C sensor camera, and has basically zero pattern banding even when rescuing 4- and 5-stop under-exposed shots. THAT is one of ****the**** critical things that the very-=newest sensor technology offers the beginner: the ability to shoot at almost any f/stop and shutter speed needed in rubbish lighting, and to then be able to "lift" an almost-black frame up to a usable photo.

    The D3100 is a poor imager unless the exposures are very close to right on.

    Once a person moves up to the 80-plus DxO Mark overall sensor score, the cameras are vastly better in tricky lighting conditions, or when one wants to deliberately shoot in rubbish light, under-expose, and then "lift" the shadow areas up, in software.

    Oh...and the D3100 has weaker, less-rich color than newer Nikon cameras... DxO Mark D7200 v D5500 v D3100.jpg

    Look into ISO invariance...which the D7200 offers...it is an entirely new world...a world that the D3100 simply cannot even live in, because it is old, outdated technology that absolutely demands ETTR.

    EVERY, single Nikkor lens will benefit if it is shot on a newer, better sensor than the one a D3100 has. And slow, kit zooms will benefit MORE than fast, pro-grade lenses. Ergo...my recommendation is to move 10 years forward in the camera department, and buy a newer, better-shooting Nikon body.
     
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    I bought a D3100 to replace my D40. The D40 was better.
     
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    YES, I know what you mean! You are comparing the last CCD sensor camera Nikon made, the D40, with one of their earlier CMOS sensor models with poor sensor performance. Yeah...I agree, the D40 was a better imager. The D40 was the end of the line for CCD...and it had a certain "something" about its files! I liked the D40 a LOT. I bought one for my wife for Christmas. The very large pixels (only 6 million) and the CCD, plus the ability to synch flash at 1/4000,etc.. made it a great little camera.

    The 3100 by comparison was awful. The D40 is sort of a hidden little gem...BIG pixels, CCD sensor, CCD color...a really nice little rig!
     
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    yup. pretty much. I was enticed by video -- where I've probably taken like (2) ever.

    The CCD sensor looked much better, and like you mentioned had much better features for even an entry level. Hell it still had the infrared remote -- something they removed on the d3100.
     
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    I beg to differ on the D40. :aiwebs_016: The D40X was the last CCD sensor Nikon slr camera. :allteeth: Still have mine in working order. But, :048: the D40X lost the high speed sync from the D40. And was $200 more. :aiwebs_016: Same sensor as the D80 btw. :encouragement:
     
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