Senior Forum Members, PLEASE HELP! In need of some advice :/

[bribrius]

The only thing i can correlate this too, is actually a insurance claim on a deck for fivek for someone. People asked me about it. i said i could "probably do that". i showed up and sent someone to start knocking down the old deck. They looked a little shocked the person was there with me because apparently they didn't comprehend we were doing it by my wording. Or maybe they didn't believe it. no idea. so out there with sledgehammers and saws, they walked out and were kind of shocked watching the old deck coming down.

I would ask again, since you dodged it the first time: What would you have done if you and your crew had shown up, and another crew was already on site getting the job done? You had no contract or agreement. You simply said "I could probably do that", which means nothing.

What would you have done?

left. i wasn't really that concerned about it.
clearly i wasn't specific enough there, and i didn't remember who i was talking to. ill admit that. They weren't upset. just shocked. i dropped the ball there and forgot who i was talking to.
"you doing this now?"
i kind of looked around at the deck being taken apart. i was just watching the start of it.
"yeah".
i realized it right then i wasn't specific enough.

 

[Steve5D]

But printer guy may not just be printer guy. He could be the "go to" guy. Go to guys can pull a lot of strings in your favor or shut you down.. They know everyone. Always try to figure out who is who before you leap when you get involved with unknown clicks. That is what is hard about these things. A newcomer doesn't see the behind the scenes relationships or understand how things work..
just throwing this out there. You can run your business however you want, but if you want to cater to certain clicks you need to adapt your thinking to their ways and understand them to make it work.

Are you serious?

In this case, the guy you say could be the "go to guy" proved that he's not the "go to guy". He dropped the ball. Badly. Someone who's the "go to guy" gets to be the "go to guy" because he gets things done.

He's a hack, and little more...

he could very well be. That wouldn't surprise me either something sure went wrong here. Me personally, i wouldn't make the judgment online it could be bad advice for the o.p.

why i suggested o.p. do a little more research first and err on the side of caution. Figure out who is who and how they are tied. People know each other. sometimes you knock down the wrong domino they all come tumbling down.

How many times do you let someone screw you over before you stop trying to work with them?

Me? One time, and I don't think I'm in too small a club...

 

[AmberAtLoveAndInk]

But printer guy may not just be printer guy. He could be the "go to" guy. Go to guys can pull a lot of strings in your favor or shut you down.. They know everyone. Always try to figure out who is who before you leap when you get involved with unknown clicks. That is what is hard about these things. A newcomer doesn't see the behind the scenes relationships or understand how things work..
just throwing this out there. You can run your business however you want, but if you want to cater to certain clicks you need to adapt your thinking to their ways and understand them to make it work.

Are you serious?

In this case, the guy you say could be the "go to guy" proved that he's not the "go to guy". He dropped the ball. Badly. Someone who's the "go to guy" gets to be the "go to guy" because he gets things done.

He's a hack, and little more...

he could very well be. That wouldn't surprise me either something sure went wrong here. Me personally, i wouldn't make the judgment online it could be bad advice for the o.p.

why i suggested o.p. do a little more research first and err on the side of caution. Figure out who is who and how they are tied. People know each other. sometimes you knock down the wrong domino they all come tumbling down.

You're right something DID go wrong here. That being, this guy told a restaurant a professional photographer would be working their event and neglected to tell the photographer they would be working it!!

and I'm sorry but if this guy is "Big Sh**" like you seem to assume based on this thread, then he would've handled it in a timely, professional manner. Big Deal, "go-to" guys don't leave people hanging to dry. What if this had gone the other way? What if I stuck my ground and refused the restaurant? He would've not only screwed my reputation in this area, but screwed the restaurant into trying to find a last minute professional 2 weeks out from the event! It would've cost the restaurant more time and money.

 

[bribrius]

Are you serious?

In this case, the guy you say could be the "go to guy" proved that he's not the "go to guy". He dropped the ball. Badly. Someone who's the "go to guy" gets to be the "go to guy" because he gets things done.

He's a hack, and little more...

he could very well be. That wouldn't surprise me either something sure went wrong here. Me personally, i wouldn't make the judgment online it could be bad advice for the o.p.

why i suggested o.p. do a little more research first and err on the side of caution. Figure out who is who and how they are tied. People know each other. sometimes you knock down the wrong domino they all come tumbling down.

You're right something DID go wrong here. That being, this guy told a restaurant a professional photographer would be working their event and neglected to tell the photographer they would be working it!!

and I'm sorry but if this guy is "Big Sh**" like you seem to assume based on this thread, then he would've handled it in a timely, professional manner. Big Deal, "go-to" guys don't leave people hanging to dry. What if this had gone the other way? What if I stuck my ground and refused the restaurant? He would've not only screwed my reputation in this area, but screwed the restaurant into trying to find a last minute professional 2 weeks out from the event! It would've cost the restaurant more time and money.

totally agree. just careful of the dominoes.

 

[Steve5D]

The only thing i can correlate this too, is actually a insurance claim on a deck for fivek for someone. People asked me about it. i said i could "probably do that". i showed up and sent someone to start knocking down the old deck. They looked a little shocked the person was there with me because apparently they didn't comprehend we were doing it by my wording. Or maybe they didn't believe it. no idea. so out there with sledgehammers and saws, they walked out and were kind of shocked watching the old deck coming down.

I would ask again, since you dodged it the first time: What would you have done if you and your crew had shown up, and another crew was already on site getting the job done? You had no contract or agreement. You simply said "I could probably do that", which means nothing.

What would you have done?

left. i wasn't really that concerned about it.
clearly i wasn't specific enough there, and i didn't remember who i was talking to. ill admit that. They weren't upset. just shocked. i dropped the ball there and forgot who i was talking to.
"you doing this now?"
i kind of looked around at the deck being taken apart. i was just watching the start of it.
"yeah".
i realized it right then i wasn't specific enough.

That's not what I asked.

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

 

[Steve5D]

and I'm sorry but if this guy is "Big Sh**" like you seem to assume based on this thread, then he would've handled it in a timely, professional manner. Big Deal, "go-to" guys don't leave people hanging to dry. What if this had gone the other way? What if I stuck my ground and refused the restaurant? He would've not only screwed my reputation in this area, but screwed the restaurant into trying to find a last minute professional 2 weeks out from the event! It would've cost the restaurant more time and money.

Here's what I'm wondering:

It seems as though the ball started rolling as soon as you contacted the restaurant. I would ask them if they sent a contract to the printer guy, believing that he was working for you as an intermediary. You said that the restaurant thought everything was taken care of. If that's true, and considering they sent you a contract as soon as you contacted them, I wonder if they sent him the contract, thinking that would seal the deal, and he simply blew it off.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what happened...

 

[bribrius]

I would ask again, since you dodged it the first time: What would you have done if you and your crew had shown up, and another crew was already on site getting the job done? You had no contract or agreement. You simply said "I could probably do that", which means nothing.

What would you have done?

left. i wasn't really that concerned about it.
clearly i wasn't specific enough there, and i didn't remember who i was talking to. ill admit that. They weren't upset. just shocked. i dropped the ball there and forgot who i was talking to.
"you doing this now?"
i kind of looked around at the deck being taken apart. i was just watching the start of it.
"yeah".
i realized it right then i wasn't specific enough.

That's not what I asked.

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

 

[bribrius]

and I'm sorry but if this guy is "Big Sh**" like you seem to assume based on this thread, then he would've handled it in a timely, professional manner. Big Deal, "go-to" guys don't leave people hanging to dry. What if this had gone the other way? What if I stuck my ground and refused the restaurant? He would've not only screwed my reputation in this area, but screwed the restaurant into trying to find a last minute professional 2 weeks out from the event! It would've cost the restaurant more time and money.

Here's what I'm wondering:

It seems as though the ball started rolling as soon as you contacted the restaurant. I would ask them if they sent a contract to the printer guy, believing that he was working for you as an intermediary. You said that the restaurant thought everything was taken care of. If that's true, and considering they sent you a contract as soon as you contacted them, I wonder if they sent him the contract, thinking that would seal the deal, and he simply blew it off.

Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if that's what happened...

this is something to consider. o.p. needs to do some research.

 

[Steve5D]

left. i wasn't really that concerned about it.
clearly i wasn't specific enough there, and i didn't remember who i was talking to. ill admit that. They weren't upset. just shocked. i dropped the ball there and forgot who i was talking to.
"you doing this now?"
i kind of looked around at the deck being taken apart. i was just watching the start of it.
"yeah".
i realized it right then i wasn't specific enough.

That's not what I asked.

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

Just like how the printer told the OP that... wait... nevermind...

 

[robbins.photo]

That's not what I asked.

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

Just like how the printer told the OP that... wait... nevermind...

Ok, so easy solution here all the way around, she just needs to grab a couple of sledgehammers, head over to the printers house and demolish his back deck. Bam! Everybody happy, win win, synergy dance. You guys start singing Kumbayah and I'll hit the quickie mart for smore's fixins.

 

[bribrius]

That's not what I asked.

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

Just like how the printer told the OP that... wait... nevermind...

yeah. okay. i concede. you win. its the printers fault.

 

[Braineack]

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

I had four contractors come out to my house to get an estimate to rip out my deck and install a new one; I'm kinda upset you weren't one of them. My deck would have been ripped out for free without a contract, and then I could sue you for damages to private property, even though I wanted it gone in the first place, and all the money I made from you in civil court could go to the contractor I actually hired and signed a contract with!

 

[runnah]

I had four contractors come out to my house to get an estimate to rip out my deck and install a new one; I'm kinda upset you weren't one of them. My deck would have been ripped out for free without a contract, and then I could sue you for damages to private property, even though I wanted it gone in the first place, and all the money I made from you in civil court could go to the contractor I actually hired and signed a contract with!

I am kinda upset you didn't do it yourself, at least tear down the old one.

tsk tsk tsk

 

[bribrius]

If you showed up and another crew was already doing the work, how would you have reacted?

i wouldn't have been bothered. Its only a couple hours to rip down a deck that size. And there is still a wait time for the insurance check so no rush.
now, if i already had materials purchased and on site, the new deck half done , had a subcontractor on it and already paid them half up front. And the check was being cut to someone else THAT would have caused a problem. But obviously before it got to that point the homeowner would have told me someone else is doing it.

I had four contractors come out to my house to get an estimate to rip out my deck and install a new one; I'm kinda upset you weren't one of them. My deck would have been ripped out for free without a contract, and then I could sue you for damages to private property, even though I wanted it gone in the first place, and all the money I made from you in civil court could go to the contractor I actually hired and signed a contract with!

this isn't the first time i've seen you write something like this. you seem like one of those very sue happy people trying to get something for free. some people are like that, they just want to use others and get something for free. Its a weasel type mentality. And some day you are going to run into the wrong person, pull this kind of thing for real, and they will take everything you have. just to teach you a lesson. i've yet to have anyone sue me and win. no why? im not out to screw anybody else.

 

[Braineack]

uh, don't come on my property and destroy my **** and not expect a tort claim.

No one is going to sue me for being awesome.