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  1. mysteryscribe

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    ........You wanted suggestions I'll start with mine which I think make sense.

    (1) If you want critique and suggestions, go to the critique.

    (2) If you just want opinions and strokes then go to the gallery.

    (3) Limit the number of posts in the critique section to ten per member per month or some such thing to keep people from showing their whole portfolio one at a time. Those aren't looking for critique they are looking for strokes.

    (4) if you offer critique you must post images somewhere on the site so your value can be judged by the participants.

    Im sure others can add more but those are off the top of my head. Hey you asked for suggestions...
     
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    What I think might have happened here is you threw out the baby with the bathwater. It might have been a better idea to fix the old forum than to toss it for something new.
     
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    I found you....

    Alter the thread in such a way that's fair and equitable for all. Agree, the changes are way to drastic.

    5) Edits are acceptable with explanations. (Told you I was flexible)

    6) Limit the intrusion of the mods....let the discussions die of their own.
     
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    Chase I am now benign! Staff Member Supporting Member

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    Appreciate the input so far. The real trick here is finding the balance between just letting people really discuss things (very unmoderated) and trying to keep the content "above a certain level" (much more moderated). The less moderation that happens, the more chance we have of losing value and it becoming just another gallery....too much moderation and we stop basic conversations that can also be beneficial. Finding that happy mid ground has proven to be nearly impossible.
     
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    I'm sure that is true. I can image that it is tough trying to make all the members happy. Most likely it is impossible. I was surprised the level of anger and the level of defensiveness going on about that one thread. If you carve your rules in stone you are going to have a stagnant thread quickly I would expect. I don't know that I have no way to know. It is just my guess.

    Anyway the new thread is not my cup of tea so I can leave that alone and try to enjoy the rest of the site. Too bad you can't put a lock on the door though.

    By the way can one request to be banned. It is about the only way I can keep myself out of trouble.
     
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    Please explain what is wrong with discussions of a personal nature that may have been introduce by way of the posted photograph?? Like where the the shot was taken....Maybe I've been there and it's refreshing to share an experience with the poster or any one who joins in. It seems relevant to the subject at hand.

    Explain......
     
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    We charge extra for that :lmao:
     
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    I understand your question, and I'd like to sort of answer it with another question. Not trying to put you on the spot, but I'd like to hear your take on this.

    What do you see as the difference between our galleries and the critique area?

    The reason I ask is that we are trying to make the critique area a learning tool, much more so than a gallery. In a gallery sense, critique happens there as well, but very informally and much more conversationally. In the critique area, the concept of the approach is much different, and therefore we are looking to handle it differently (and hopefully with more general benefit for those we are specifically looking for that kind of feedback).

    One point that I think people may have tried to make, but came across poorly, is that the majority of what I see people feeling is lost are things that the regular galleries provide. If you post something in the general gallery and ask for input, you will get it, many times lots of. Critique can and does happen there, but in a very unstructured way. I believe the vast majority of what people post "belongs" there, even if they are looking for some level of critique. The concept of the critique forum is to be much more structured in format and to push people to really provide detailed content, which is where the increased level of moderation comes into play.

    Again, I'm far from saying any of this is a perfect concept or a perfect execution, but I'm hoping that better stating my views on it may help. The is one small area of the forum that shouldn't detract from other areas, but at the same time, won't be an area that everyone finds enjoyment in either. Just like many avoid off topic because it doesn't "do anything" for them, critique is sort of the same way in a sense. That isn't the only place people can get critique, but it is a specific place to get critique if that is the kind you are looking for. And, at risk of sounding like a broken record, it is a work in progress just like the rest of the site :D
     
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    At this moment, there a 0, that's zero viewing the critique forums.....

    Have the members been scared off???? with the New guidelines??? and inforcements policy????
     
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    Also, just a side note, I've been viewing and responding to all of this from my laptop in an airport for the last day or so. All of yesterdays posts from me were from sitting in an airport terminal where my flight eventually got canceled, and I am back here this morning. So, I'm doing my best to stay on top of things, but there will be some big gaps in my ability to do so....not to mention that its very possible that I will miss some details. Just wanted to let you all know.
     
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    As a pilot, I may not have sympathy for you....where are you stuck?
     
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    Frankly, not much except that you have narrowed the amout of interest in the critique section by limiting it to the number of qualified people expressing opinions on just the photos. Ther's no personality involved....it's dry, bone dry!
     

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