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Ysarex said:
The biggest reason Pros don't and won't use Sony cameras is because Sony has no clue what it means for a camera company to make a commitment to their working pro customers. Sony doesn't understand why pros don't use their cameras -- it's not the cameras, it's Sony.

Those few words are really the absolute essential truth when it comes to small, eye-level cameras for professional use. There USED TO BE more companies making eye-level, 35-millimeter type cameras, but the entire field has been whittled down to two companies that dominate the entire segment: Canon, and Nikon. Truth be told, it's actually more important to have the COMPANY behind your gear than it is to have the cameras. If you have a Canon, you can get virtually anything you need. Same with Nikon. And they are stable companies. Giants. You are not getting "a camera", but an entire system, an "eco-system" some call it.

Sony has been a big player in the video market, but for still cameras, they are a newborn. Meanwhile Canon is solidly #1, Nikon a close-ish #2, and Sony a diiiiiiiiiistant #3. The whole thing makes me think of pickup trucks. Ford F-150. Chevy. Dodge. Toyota. Annnnnnnnnd, yeah, Honda has made a pickup truck too! Sony is the Honda pickup Honda pickup truck - Google Search
 
One of the big issues with mirror less cameras he left out is how dirty the sensor gets very quick if you are switching lenses a lot especially if you are using adapters. I know when tested out the A7 for a few weeks it got extremely dirty very very fast. Its not so much a problem if you are shooting low F numbers but once you get to F8 and above you will see it in your images.

Thus this is also will be an expensive camera to maintain.
Thats strange had mine about 4 months and never seen a spec of dust
 
Sony is deeply flawed for a number of reasons, but my biggest Sony complaint, and why I still have yet to buy one, despite multiple opportunities is: Sony. Sony thinks like an electronics giant and not like a camera manufacturer. there's nothing wrong with that, by itself, but it creates hit and miss camera companies. Samsung and Sony both are giant electronics companies, but it seems Samsung is more in tune with photographers, and why that is I'm not sure, but they keep pushing out more and more intuitive gear, with better and better tech, though they still lack a solid DSLR entry and appear to be focusing more on mirrorless, I still feel like Samsung is closer to getting it right. Sony, on the other hand, it seems wanted a piece of the pie, bought up another camera company, and went at it, but more like they would for say.. a playstation, and less like say...a D800, and by that I mean, why all the Sony only accessories? Can't play nice? Why the baffling exclusions, like multi-touch screens on many models? Did these people not make the PS Vita? the whole back of that thing is a touch pad and you can't even see it, and why all the competing lens mounts with so few lenses? Focus on one! Don't make us buy more stuff, make us WANT to buy more stuff. Every time I use a Canon, Nikon, or Pentax DSLR, I want to buy more of their stuff, I'm an addict, but when I start looking at Sony's offerings I can't get past their attitude towards the end user, like "Yes our sensors are some of the best around, so we wrapped it in an inconvenient package and charged you a lot for it! Forget Canon and Nikon, they only have the best reputations in the world, dominate the market, have more lenses, more camera bodies, and a history of making history, forget them, and buy from us because it says Sony on it." to me it seems if you are going to jump in and get serious, you should anticipate skepticism, and work that much harder to appeal to your potential customers, rather than offering up what amounts to more of the same, from a manufacturer that can clearly build some incredible electronics with bleeding edge tech, if they choose.

I'd give them 5 more years, let them sort out their systems, and re-evaluate, because they don't make garbage, they are nice cameras, but until then, unless I see a used a3000 or something on craigslist for cheap, I'm pretty much meh on Sony.
 
You may not notice it on low f stops but I shoot a lot of HDR f8-f11 sometimes higher and you this is when you can see it. If you have the A7 point the camera at the sky shoot at F11 then go and look at your file.. I am sure you will see the dust. I see it more because when tone mapping it always will amplify those dust particles. Easy fix is to clone out but never the less it was there
 
First I want to say as a past Sony user I have a lot of warm positive feeling to Sony, I enjoyed it and still have lots of respect to it.
I do think Sony keeps pushing the envelope, also I like the fact they use crop sensor and full frame sensor and not micro 4/3
No doubt in my mind mirrorless is the future but this technology still didn't mature enough to replace DSLR, once it will you will see Canon and Nikon shedding their DSLR like yesterday rain. AF is still not there.

1.So the guy just found out his Nikon is using Sony sensor ?
Wow, really ? Only now ?
Not a big secret, Nikon was very open about it.
2.Sony A6000, yep a good mirrorless camera but its AF system is not impressive so 11 FPS is pointless.
3.He forgot to mention how very little lenses are out there currently by Sony and the pro lenses for Sony cameras are not cheap at all!!!
4.He also forgot to mention that size is great but the truly heavy stuff is lenses and if you want fast glass it will be heavy so small, light cameras with FF sensor is great but the glass still weighs a ton!!!
5.So he just found out about wifi, woooo hooo, sorry I am not a 15 years old, I don't post my pics on instegram, don't need wifi, don't care about wifi, if he does then god bless him but bashing others who find this pointless and silly is immature.
I do post my pictures on Flickr but that's after I go through my pics at home, process them and then choose the ones I want to post, I would never imagine to shoot JPEG and posting the pics right away on the internet.
6.The call to Sony at the end, well I don't need to add anything to that, everybody should come to their own conclusion on that, I sure did.
7.He said the A7s shoots 4K, true but there is another device you need to buy to do that which I understood is very expensive!!!
8.Shooting at 100000ISO or 400000 ISO ?
Sillly!!!
No doubt the A7s is good in low light but it has low MP count which for me and I think many others is VERY important, I think the D750 or 5D III (which are relatively close in price to the A7s) with fast glass will cover 99% of the needs of a pro and hobbyist with good size MP resolution.
I have the Canon G15 which has 12MP sensor and when I crop it I gotta tell you there is very, very little "meat" there to crop into.

Bottom line god bless him for moving to Sony, doesn't make me sad or happy, if he is happy then good for him, I will stay with my "inadequate/old technology" Nikon DSLR and when the time will come I will do the jump to mirrorless when the technology will really get better then DSLR......its not quite there yet.
The fast lenses I put on my A7 are not big or heavy
What lens are these if I may ask ?
Voigtlander 28F2 Ultron, Voigtlander 50F1.5 asph Nokton, Voigtlander 40F1.4 sc Nokton,
Looks like we are talking two different languages here.
Prime lenses are fast lenses and seem like its working well for you.
For me it wouldn't, I love prime lenses but I absolutely don't like switching lenses.
I love 24-70mm and 70-200mm, two lenses that gives me excellent quality and minimal lens switching.
If Sony had these lenses on the A7....................

1.They would cost a ton
2.They would still be very big

Naf said.

This is personal choice, looks you are happy and that's all that matter.
Seriously if I would be forced to choose a mirrorles camera system I would go with the Sony A7, thank god though there are other options though.

Canon 70-200 on A7 iso6400

DSC00897-XL.jpg


50F1.5asph and Voigtlander close focus adapter fully out for close focus and lens at F1.5

DSC01096-XL.jpg
Lovely pictures :)
Proving my point that if you are going to own a small camera with a huge lens you kind of defeating the point.
Still the A7 while not my choice of camera is indeed a good camera (all 3 models).
 
First I want to say as a past Sony user I have a lot of warm positive feeling to Sony, I enjoyed it and still have lots of respect to it.
I do think Sony keeps pushing the envelope, also I like the fact they use crop sensor and full frame sensor and not micro 4/3
No doubt in my mind mirrorless is the future but this technology still didn't mature enough to replace DSLR, once it will you will see Canon and Nikon shedding their DSLR like yesterday rain. AF is still not there.

1.So the guy just found out his Nikon is using Sony sensor ?
Wow, really ? Only now ?
Not a big secret, Nikon was very open about it.
2.Sony A6000, yep a good mirrorless camera but its AF system is not impressive so 11 FPS is pointless.
3.He forgot to mention how very little lenses are out there currently by Sony and the pro lenses for Sony cameras are not cheap at all!!!
4.He also forgot to mention that size is great but the truly heavy stuff is lenses and if you want fast glass it will be heavy so small, light cameras with FF sensor is great but the glass still weighs a ton!!!
5.So he just found out about wifi, woooo hooo, sorry I am not a 15 years old, I don't post my pics on instegram, don't need wifi, don't care about wifi, if he does then god bless him but bashing others who find this pointless and silly is immature.
I do post my pictures on Flickr but that's after I go through my pics at home, process them and then choose the ones I want to post, I would never imagine to shoot JPEG and posting the pics right away on the internet.
6.The call to Sony at the end, well I don't need to add anything to that, everybody should come to their own conclusion on that, I sure did.
7.He said the A7s shoots 4K, true but there is another device you need to buy to do that which I understood is very expensive!!!
8.Shooting at 100000ISO or 400000 ISO ?
Sillly!!!
No doubt the A7s is good in low light but it has low MP count which for me and I think many others is VERY important, I think the D750 or 5D III (which are relatively close in price to the A7s) with fast glass will cover 99% of the needs of a pro and hobbyist with good size MP resolution.
I have the Canon G15 which has 12MP sensor and when I crop it I gotta tell you there is very, very little "meat" there to crop into.

Bottom line god bless him for moving to Sony, doesn't make me sad or happy, if he is happy then good for him, I will stay with my "inadequate/old technology" Nikon DSLR and when the time will come I will do the jump to mirrorless when the technology will really get better then DSLR......its not quite there yet.
The fast lenses I put on my A7 are not big or heavy
What lens are these if I may ask ?
Voigtlander 28F2 Ultron, Voigtlander 50F1.5 asph Nokton, Voigtlander 40F1.4 sc Nokton,
Looks like we are talking two different languages here.
Prime lenses are fast lenses and seem like its working well for you.
For me it wouldn't, I love prime lenses but I absolutely don't like switching lenses.
I love 24-70mm and 70-200mm, two lenses that gives me excellent quality and minimal lens switching.
If Sony had these lenses on the A7....................

1.They would cost a ton
2.They would still be very big

Naf said.

This is personal choice, looks you are happy and that's all that matter.
Seriously if I would be forced to choose a mirrorles camera system I would go with the Sony A7, thank god though there are other options though.

Canon 70-200 on A7 iso6400

DSC00897-XL.jpg


50F1.5asph and Voigtlander close focus adapter fully out for close focus and lens at F1.5

DSC01096-XL.jpg
Lovely pictures :)
Proving my point that if you are going to own a small camera with a huge lens you kind of defeating the point.
Still the A7 while not my choice of camera is indeed a good camera (all 3 models).
No because I will never use Canon lenses on it again unless they are LTM Canon lenses I bought It to use my Leica M mount lenses
 
The fast lenses I put on my A7 are not big or heavy
What lens are these if I may ask ?
Voigtlander 28F2 Ultron, Voigtlander 50F1.5 asph Nokton, Voigtlander 40F1.4 sc Nokton,
Looks like we are talking two different languages here.
Prime lenses are fast lenses and seem like its working well for you.
For me it wouldn't, I love prime lenses but I absolutely don't like switching lenses.
I love 24-70mm and 70-200mm, two lenses that gives me excellent quality and minimal lens switching.
If Sony had these lenses on the A7....................

1.They would cost a ton
2.They would still be very big

Naf said.

This is personal choice, looks you are happy and that's all that matter.
Seriously if I would be forced to choose a mirrorles camera system I would go with the Sony A7, thank god though there are other options though.

Canon 70-200 on A7 iso6400

DSC00897-XL.jpg


50F1.5asph and Voigtlander close focus adapter fully out for close focus and lens at F1.5

DSC01096-XL.jpg
Lovely pictures :)
Proving my point that if you are going to own a small camera with a huge lens you kind of defeating the point.
Still the A7 while not my choice of camera is indeed a good camera (all 3 models).
No because I will never use Canon lenses on it again unless they are LTM Canon lenses I bought It to use my Leica M mount lenses
Thats not the point, the point is that if you are like me want to use only good fast glass (zoom) you are forced to use big lenses.
The fact you choose to use certain lenses which are small are your choice but theoretical for me it would be pointless because I would be forced to use big glass on small body.....pointless for me.
 
What lens are these if I may ask ?
Voigtlander 28F2 Ultron, Voigtlander 50F1.5 asph Nokton, Voigtlander 40F1.4 sc Nokton,
Looks like we are talking two different languages here.
Prime lenses are fast lenses and seem like its working well for you.
For me it wouldn't, I love prime lenses but I absolutely don't like switching lenses.
I love 24-70mm and 70-200mm, two lenses that gives me excellent quality and minimal lens switching.
If Sony had these lenses on the A7....................

1.They would cost a ton
2.They would still be very big

Naf said.

This is personal choice, looks you are happy and that's all that matter.
Seriously if I would be forced to choose a mirrorles camera system I would go with the Sony A7, thank god though there are other options though.

Canon 70-200 on A7 iso6400

DSC00897-XL.jpg


50F1.5asph and Voigtlander close focus adapter fully out for close focus and lens at F1.5

DSC01096-XL.jpg
Lovely pictures :)
Proving my point that if you are going to own a small camera with a huge lens you kind of defeating the point.
Still the A7 while not my choice of camera is indeed a good camera (all 3 models).
No because I will never use Canon lenses on it again unless they are LTM Canon lenses I bought It to use my Leica M mount lenses
Thats not the point, the point is that if you are like me want to use only good fast glass (zoom) you are forced to use big lenses.
The fact you choose to use certain lenses which are small are your choice but theoretical for me it would be pointless because I would be forced to use big glass on small body.....pointless for me.
You will have to stick with a boring DSLR then
 
You will have to stick with a boring DSLR then
LOL, I guess I will (for now)
Again dont get me wrong the A7 camera series is awesome but for now as you said I will stick to DSLR.
I dont think it will take more then few years for DSLR to go in the ways of the Dodo (is this how you spell it ?) but for now its still the king of the hill.
 
You will have to stick with a boring DSLR then
LOL, I guess I will (for now)
Again dont get me wrong the A7 camera series is awesome but for now as you said I will stick to DSLR.
I dont think it will take more then few years for DSLR to go in the ways of the Dodo (is this how you spell it ?) but for now its still the king of the hill.
They are not king of the streets everyone can see you coming a mile off
 
You will have to stick with a boring DSLR then
LOL, I guess I will (for now)
Again dont get me wrong the A7 camera series is awesome but for now as you said I will stick to DSLR.
I dont think it will take more then few years for DSLR to go in the ways of the Dodo (is this how you spell it ?) but for now its still the king of the hill.
They are not king of the streets everyone can see you coming a mile off
Yep, when I have my D7100 with the Tami 70-200mm mounted on it you can see me even from the UK ;)
 
You could have easily seen me with my 300f2.8L but that got sold 3 months ago
 
Personally I think if Lanier got a load of money, Sony would have had him promote the new lenses coming out soon. They didn't and he didn't, so I have to think he was on his own. He just likes Sony for the buck. Nothing wrong with that.
 

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