2 photos for C&C Please. Taken Thanksgiving 2011

[RebeccaAPhotography]

Quite frankly I'm getting sick of posts where the author complains about not getting enough C&C or not getting it fast enough and them bumping their posts all the time. It's great if you get C&C. Better luck next time if you don't. Life is like a box of chocolates and so is TPF. AFAIK nobody here gets paid to respond to posts. People need to realize that and be grateful for the responses they receive. I would love to get C&C from cgipson1, KmH, MLeek, Derrel, bigtwinky, Bitter Jeweler, Schwettylens, BigMike and tirediron (to name a few) on every single photo I post but I realize that it won't happen and that's fine.

This is not a stab at photo guy specifically but I'm seeing posts like this all the time. They're especially annoying when the author has less than 10 posts under their belt.

Ditto! Whenever I post a thread for cc on my photos I sit there and think please please will (all names listed above) cc me!!! I learn a lot thru their posts and replies, and links that they've posted.

 

[kundalini]

I would love to get C&C from cgipson1, KmH, MLeek, Derrel, bigtwinky, Bitter Jeweler, Schwettylens, BigMike and tirediron (to name a few) on every single photo I post but I realize that it won't happen and that's fine.

Me too, but there are many other members that have my respect and would include in a list of welcomed critiquers. Hell, in fact one of the best recently packed his bags for the second time due to attitudes of the newbies. However, I'd take anyone's comments for my posted photos. There is validity, to some extent, with each person's opinion. Well, there are a few exceptions because I know they're idiots and can be easily overlooked.

 

[jake337]

Here's a few threads I posted that still have no comments. At some point you will have to realize there was a reason no one commented. I never asked or got all up in arms about no one commenting on them. It happens all the time. Some posted as far back 4-5-2011. Also depending on the time of day you post, your post may be off the first page by the time people who would C&C for ya are even awake.

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/general-gallery/266000-last-leaf.html 12-15-2011

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/black-white-gallery/257572-nik.html 9-23-2011

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/macro-photography/248811-hungry-jumper.html 6-29-2011

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/black-white-gallery/241223-quick-one-last-years-state-fair.html 4-13-2011

http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/black-white-gallery/240562-my-lil-guy.html 4-5-2011



Don't let it discourage you. Keep shooting. Keep posting. Keep learning.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

At least I am trying to get some experience at photographing different things at different times.

... I am not after shooting that 1 building and nothing else since that is one of the ugliest buildings in town.

Well, so much for shooting different things...

Narrow mindedness leads to slower learning.


Learn to SEE!

EVERYTHING!

 

[Rosshole]

Am I the only one entertained by the fact that the people commenting about all the n00bs around, all seem to have a forum join date withing the last two months...

Intredasting.

 

[photo guy]

Thank You naptime. I did not use a filter as I don't own a DSLR. These were taken with my Fuji FinePixS1500 10mp 12x Optical and in Auto mode as I wanted to try photographing something different.

 

[Destin]

photo guy, I am inclined to think that there are SO many newbies on here right now that the true heroes of this board are tired or too busy to grab every single C&C. I don't C&C but I'm getting tired of threads that say C&C in them just because most of them hold crap pics from people who got a DSLR for Christmas lol. I say just wait till the rush is over and try again. Chances are, those 73 views are from the newbies who can't/don't C&C. And out of the members we have here, 73 views is nothing, and for all you know, could be from the general public.

Saying stuff like "maybe I shouldn't waste my time posting photos" is very passive aggressive and will NOT get you the attention you desire, that's for sure.

All too true. I am sticking away from cc during the influx of newbies. Much safer that way.
And to the passive aggressive side... did you happen to think about all of those newbies? They are checking out everything and anything for inspiration, insight, ideas, information... but they aren't up to commenting yet. Aaannnd... this sites public. ANYONE can view the posts. They all count as views.
Lastly... if you want to have a snit because no one said anything you might want to think twice. You get out of this what you put into it. Put a pissy attitude in and you'll get pissy back. The help you receive here is FREE. We are not PAID to be at your beck and call. We don't HAVE to give you any feedback. We take a lot of time to freely give of our knowledge. If we don't do it on your schedule I am incredibly sorry. I have PAYING clients who come first. Then my family, friends and just about everyone I know who come long before any forum. Same with everyone else. You get help here WHEN WE CAN GIVE IT. Or never if you are ungrateful and pissy about it.

Don't be rude and bash him. We'll never hear the end of it!

Who cares? There are enough newbies coming in with their new cameras from Christmas that we're bound to scare a few off anyway!

 

[Destin]

Quite frankly I'm getting sick of posts where the author complains about not getting enough C&C or not getting it fast enough and them bumping their posts all the time. It's great if you get C&C. Better luck next time if you don't. Life is like a box of chocolates and so is TPF. AFAIK nobody here gets paid to respond to posts. People need to realize that and be grateful for the responses they receive. I would love to get C&C from cgipson1, KmH, MLeek, Derrel, bigtwinky, Bitter Jeweler, Schwettylens, BigMike and tirediron (to name a few) on every single photo I post but I realize that it won't happen and that's fine.

This is not a stab at photo guy specifically but I'm seeing posts like this all the time. They're especially annoying when the author has less than 10 posts under their belt.

Ditto! Whenever I post a thread for cc on my photos I sit there and think please please will (all names listed above) cc me!!! I learn a lot thru their posts and replies, and links that they've posted.

It takes TIME on here to earn their respect and C&C. I was on here for close to a year before my photos started consistently getting C&C from the veteran members. They generally tend to give C&C to those who take time to participate on the forum, and not those who only post when they want C&C.

 

[Destin]

Now, as far as C&C on the original photos, I'll be honest:

They're a bit snapshot-ish. There is no clear subject in them, and my eye is quickly led out of the photo by the road without ever being pulled into a subject. They just don't manage to hold my attention on them because there is no clear subject.

 

[photo guy]

DESTIN: I do reply to other forum posts since you seem to not pay attention. If you think it should happen this way, I should be receiving more C&C than I do for all the posts that I have commented on but I'm not. I take it you have not read some of the warnings about being bashing me or being rude when I post something. Here's some advice, if you can't be polite about it DO NOT REPLY since your first of the two posts seems like an attack on me.

 

[Destin]

DESTIN: I do reply to other forum posts since you seem to not pay attention. If you think it should happen this way, I should be receiving more C&C than I do for all the posts that I have commented on but I'm not. I take it you have not read some of the warnings about being bashing me or being rude when I post something. Here's some advice, if you can't be polite about it DO NOT REPLY since your first of the two posts seems like an attack on me.

Just because this is your thread doesn't mean my posts were directed at you. WHEN I QUOTE SOMEONE, IT MEANS IM DIRECTING MY WORDS AT THEM AND THEIR POST.

All I'm saying is that you have yet to learn how to get the most efficient C&C out of your posts. You need to put some thought into it, maybe ask for C&C on specific details in a photo. Maybe tell us what YOU see wrong with it, and allow us to agree or disagree. Posts where there are just photos, and a single sentence asking for C&C rarely obtain much of a response. People are only willing to help you if you're willing to take some time to put a post together with a bit of information and thought in it.

 

[photo guy]

If you go back to just above the photos, I did post my own C&C on there when I posted them this time and as I stated, this other photography is still new to me.

 

[thereyougo!]

Photo Guy: Remember I said in my reply to your pm that you should start afresh and read some books?

Please do so. Read some books on the basics of composition, on exposure and get some new looks on the ordinary things around you. Photography doesn't have to be about 'pretty' things. It is about finding a subject, and by using exposure and composition to get your subject or message across. If people can't see your message or subject without prompting, then the photograph isn't working. It doesn't matter how nice or otherwise the scene is, it's about capturing a scene and making it speak. have a look at some of the photos you have 'critiqued' in particular, Ron's hat and the love tree. They are both good shots that convey a message clearly. Are they perfect? No, but they don't have to be because their message or story is very clear.

You have been photographing for the fire service for 2 years I believe you said. No you're not a professional, but I'm sure you'd like to be to a professional standard. I'll be plainly honest, you have a long, long way to go. Read, read, read again and then read some more. In between reading, practise on simple things like a building - yes even that 'ugly' building you dismissed. Work with the books or online material and work on composition as they suggest: just googling 'rule of thirds' will give you something to work on.

Give it a week or two and then post us what you have learned, and ask for guidance on the next step. I would suggest that you don't C&C other's work technically until you have a bit more knowledge and experience that will give you some credibility. I'm not meaning to be cruel, but telling people they need to center things repeatedly just shows your inexperience. Yes sometimes the subject should be centred, but actually majority of the time important things should be 'on the thirds' and the eye naturally wanders to the right top third.

I think you are missing out an awful lot by not learning composition. You will get so much more respect if you go off for a week or two learn some stuff and then show us where you are. It's no good complaining that people aren't commenting on your work. I have things in the galleries section of the forum that have quite a few views but few or no comments. What does that tell me? It tells me that although those images may be good, they aren't striking or interesting enough for people to have commented on it. Am I offended? No. It just means that I have to work harder.

The best thing about any form of art, be it music, painting, photography etc is that it is fairly subjective so there is no limit on your ability to improve. Embrace that and you will start to move forward.

 

[thereyougo!]

Come to think of it, where has the 'love tree' photo gone? The thread just disappeared.

 

[thereyougo!]

If you go back to just above the photos, I did post my own C&C on there when I posted them this time and as I stated, this other photography is still new to me.

I don't want to appear to be picking on you, but what's 'this other photography'? The principles of photography apply to all types of photography. All the usual rules apply re exposure and composition. So you should apply the same to your fire photography as to landscape. This will mean that from your reading you're fire photography will also improve.

Don't whatever you do judge photography by what you see in the papers. So often the quality is appaulingly low. What passes for photography in the UK press is often shot at mega high ISO so you can see the noise on a tiny photo, and some are even taken by a photographer of his TV screen with all the associated issues. Go and look at some great photographers work, Some UK ones of note, Joe Cornish as gsgary, mentioned, David Noton. Look at their compositions. Joe shoots with a 5D MkII but the fact that he uses a high spec camera has little to do with it. Composition rules are the same whether you shoot with an iphone or a hassleblad.

here is one of David Noton's galleries. Have a look. lots of leading lines, foreground interest, rule of thirds

http://www.davidnoton.com/gallery2.htm

In particular note the old man in the black and white. his eyes are pin sharp and are on the top right third. He is not dead centre, not even on the third.


And some of Joe Cornish's

http://www.joecornishgallery.co.uk/gallery/list/category/limited-edition-prints