60D and OOF photos

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  1. Ricky21

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    Ok, so I am absolutely driving myself crazy today. I have been playing with my 3 week old 60D today and I have noticed that my pics on the computers are all pretty OOF. I have been shooting mostly with my new Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8 L IS I. To test things out I turned on the autofocus square so I could see on the LCD where my focus was. I look at that same point in LR, and it is not the case if anything zoomed over normal size. I am so frustrated. I have also been playing around with my Tamron 17-55mm f/2.8, Canon 50mm f/1.4 and Canon 100mm f/2.8 Marco lens.

    I upgraded from the Rebel XS so I am accounting for some of this as a learning curve, but I had great results with these lens with the Rebel. (Rented the 70-200 before and it was tack sharp). I tried taking the quality from L to M in .jpg to see if the reduced pixels would make a difference, but that didn't seem to do anything either. Could there be a problem with the camera?

    So frustrated......

    I have attached a link to show an example. (Also, can someone please tell me how to save the URL so I can upload image from iMac? I tried several times, but it was telling me invalid link) In this photo I was focusing on the large R in True Green written on the truck. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Should I have camera checked out?

    IMG_0244.jpg photo - Ricky Robinson photos at pbase.com


     
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    Not sure I see what you're seeing.
     
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    I am not seeing what you're seeing either. The focus is sharp. You can't take a picture of a picture and expect the second to be as clean and perfect as the first-it's not going to be. Think about photo copy... They degrade with each copy of a copy you make no matter what you do.
     
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    hard to see minor OOF issues unless you're at 100% crop. If your shots are indeed OOF, I would question your focusing methods before the gear. Are you in sinlge shot mode rather than AI servo?
     
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    I was shooting one shot using the center AF point for focus. I have an example of my son I will post in a bit. I seem to get a handful sharp and then the majority OOF, when zoomed in. They look great on LCD and regular size from camera.

    What is frustrating to me is the difference between bodies. I realize the 60d mp increase and sensor are going to point out my flaws, but I was shooting in very bright conditions with a fast shutter speed on a still subject. I guess my pic of the yard sign wasn't the greatest example.

    Does decreasing the jpg **** quality from L to M do anything. I think the M is a 8MP compared to the full 18 at L.
     
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    Try viewing your 60D shots at around 60% instead of 100% when doing a rough comparison to your XS. I find that after a smaller MP body the 60% size is roughly similar to what I was used to seeing from the smaller MP camera. Viewing at 100% on larger MP cameras takes time to get used to as the appearance of the shot is much softer (because the increased MP means that a 100% view is that much larger on the screen).
     
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    The two photos of my son in the grayish/blue shirt were taken today with my 60D and the 70-200mm L series lens. I consider them in focus, but when zoomed in they appear to be soft in the face and the detail of the eyes. (I was focusing on the eyes using one shot and center AF point). The pirate photo was taken with my Tamron 17-55 lens on the Rebel body. It is tack sharp. I can zoom in to 100% and it just gets better and better. The frustrating part to me is that the 60D photos are not close to that sharp around 40-50% zoom. Please let me know what your thoughts are. All and any help is much appreciated, as I'm pulling my hair out.
    $IMG_0255.jpg $IMG_0240.jpg $IMG_4937.jpg

    My wife thinks I'm crazy and says they look fine, but I just can't seem to get past this.
     
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    Those last 3 look sharp and in focus to me. The third one is ridiculously tack sharp.
     
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    Right, that is what I'm going for, to be tack tack sharp with my 60d but haven't been able to get even close to that yet.

    So, you think the fist two are sharp then? Maybe I am losing it. I realize they are not tack sharp, but that is what is driving me crazy. Is it going to be possible to get tack sharp photos with every bit of detail with 60d at 100%?

    Thanks again for any help/suggestions.
     
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    Put it on a tripod, use live view to manually focus on a stationary object, ensuring perfect focus. This takes the AF calibration out of the equation. If you can get tack sharp photos this way, then your problem lies somewhere in the AF. If they still come out looking soft, it may be that you need to up the sharpening treatment that the camera applies to .jpg files, or that the larger (more mp's) sensor just won't give results that are as amazingly sharp as the one with less.
     
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    Before you get too upset, post your exit for each shot. I wouldn't blame the camera without knowing what your settings were first.
     

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