A feature that really should exist on all dSLRs. [Rant]

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  1. Gavjenks

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    Apparently none you guys read past the first clause of what I wrote. Did I say that I use full auto on my camera? No. Did I say you should? No. Here, I'll try again, with emphasis to make it easier:
    So in other words: You encountered a good reason to believe that in your situations, the camera would probably guess certain things incorrectly, and so you started using those particular settings manually again.

    Which means you did precisely what I just suggested people should do.

    I'm glad we agree.


     
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    Alex_B No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    I never said there was disagreement on that level!

    I am just amazed that you (seem to) be happy with what the camera usually suggests to you.
     
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    Eh? I didn't say that I was... :scratch:

    In fact, the whole point of this thread was that I am frustrated that my cameras' built in features are NOT well customized to my individual usage preferences. Thus, I wanted a way to reach in and recustomize them.



    Let me try to rephrase this time:

    A) IF your camera has an auto function that you expect to make the same decision that you would make, you should always use it.
    B) IF your camera has an auto function that you expect to make the wrong decision according to you, then you should not use it.

    ^ That's all I'm saying. That people shouldn't be manually setting things IF AND WHEN their camera has an auto function that would make the same decisions as them, because to do so wastes time and concentration. And I'm rather baffled why people would take issue with it. It seems like basic, uncontroversial common sense to me.
     
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    runnah Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member

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    When shooting most advanced users have a precise idea of what they are looking to get from the shot and adjust accordingly. The camera guesses what you want based on programming.
     
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    It's the "blond" hair.
     
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    And Lightroom tethered as well as the software that came with your Canon camera
     
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    I have a Canon camera? Oh, the shame of it all!
     
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    Yes, but not every variable is RELEVANT to the precise vision of the shot you have in your head, in some situations.
    What does a sports photographer care whether the shot was at 1/1000th of a second or 1/2000th of a second, as long as there is no motion blur?
    What does he care if it's ISO 100 or 400, if he is using a modern full frame camera, and neither is going to show visible noise at his final print size?

    He doesn't care, and thus it would be a waste of time for him to manually shuffle between 1/1000th or 1/2000th or ISO 100, 200, 400. The auto math system would do better, as long as it is constrained within the range of values that don't matter for this particular shooting situation.

    Similarly, if auto focus is precise enough to focus on what you intended it to focus on, then it would be a waste of time to use manual focus ANYWAY, because it wouldn't do anything to help you better accomplish your vision for the shot.

    In fact, spending your time doing either of these things, if they are unnecessary, would actively hurt your photography, because you would be more likely to miss shots while fumbling.



    You're right that the camer guesses based on generic programming. But whenever generic programming is expected to match your own decisions (which is predictable as to when it will), then the programming is better, because it's faster than you.
     
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    :lol: Well, not YOU, of course.
     
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    Whew! For a minute there, I thought I'd have to kill myself!
     

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