A small piece of bicycle by Pascal Riben

[timor]

Did you ever noticed me asking first how the picture was made and then expressing my opinion about it ? I am rather surprised, when you or someone else is revealing, that photo was made on film. But you just voiced all the reasons why, after it's introduction, digital produced so many photographers and 2-3 billion of pictures every day. However I don't think digital on high level is cheap. Top quality papers and inks cost a lot.

 

[pascalriben]

Did you ever noticed me asking first how the picture was made and then expressing my opinion about it ? I am rather surprised, when you or someone else is revealing, that photo was made on film. But you just voiced all the reasons why, after it's introduction, digital produced so many photographers and 2-3 billion of pictures every day. However I don't think digital on high level is cheap. Top quality papers and inks cost a lot.

?????? This post is for me ?

 

[timor]

Did you ever noticed me asking first how the picture was made and then expressing my opinion about it ? I am rather surprised, when you or someone else is revealing, that photo was made on film. But you just voiced all the reasons why, after it's introduction, digital produced so many photographers and 2-3 billion of pictures every day. However I don't think digital on high level is cheap. Top quality papers and inks cost a lot.

?????? This post is for me ?

Sorry, yes. Maybe I should quote. I wrote it after this from you:
"I have done a lot of work in the dark room and I have loved it a little bit and hated it a lot!

I like B&W film but you must deal with product smelling bad or with expensive laboratories and unfriendly people.

I don't think you can match the skill of a professional, working 8 hours - or more! - a day to enlarge photo in his professional darkroom.

And after, you have to found a place to take care of your negative films...

With digital, bie bie all these problems: you can do everything yourself, if you're motived, Photoshop for photographer is easy to learn. And digital is cheap - except for people who buy a new camera every 3 or six months. And you can save thousand pictures in a hard disk small enough to be put in your pocket. And you can make backup, etc.

Sure, you can find digital colder, but I'm not really interested by "beautiful B&W" (you can save a weak or even a bad photo with "beautiful B&W"). "Plastic look" usually results from to much noise reduction.

And digital is just at the beginning

But I understand people who prefer film, even if I feel crazy for them !!!

For me, :heart: digital camera :heart: has changed my life: nothing less! And I'm not a geek or somebody not familiar with film.

Amen."

 

[timor]

Anyway here is something interesting about just images and how they are presented.
http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.org.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9080
In conclusion doesn't matter how they are made. My opinion about your images is and will be always biased, not because of who you are, but because of who I am.

 

[pascalriben]

My opinion about your images is and will be always biased, not because of who you are, but because of who I am.

From this point of view, all opinions are biased !

 

[timor]

I can talk only about myself.

 

[gsgary]

I can talk only about myself.

Bias towards film ?

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[limr33 3]

My opinion about your images is and will be always biased, not because of who you are, but because of who I am.

From this point of view, all opinions are biased !

All opinions ARE biased. That's why they are called 'opinions'

 

[pascalriben]

My opinion about your images is and will be always biased, not because of who you are, but because of who I am.

From this point of view, all opinions are biased !

All opinions ARE biased. That's why they are called 'opinions'

Correct :mrgreen:

 

[timor]

I can talk only about myself.

Bias towards film ?

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No, biased towards what I see in the frame. Biased, cause I try myself to fill up that frame with some content and I know, how it goes. Take a look at the link I left for Pascal.
http://www.film-and-darkroom-user.or...ead.php?t=9080
It discuss the difference between my (or ours - people interested in photography) bias and general population point of view.

 

[pascalriben]

And what do you think of this? (sorry if you already seen it)
Why You Shouldn't Give Too Much Weight to Anonymous Online Critics

 

[timor]

And what do you think of this? (sorry if you already seen it)
Why You Shouldn't Give Too Much Weight to Anonymous Online Critics

I know this, always makes me laugh. If you want to win those people start to shoot like Lik does. First, what buys people, are outrages colours. A little shot of dopamine with that, and the viewer is yours. Subject is secondary and far, far behind.

 

[pascalriben]

And what do you think of this? (sorry if you already seen it)
Why You Shouldn't Give Too Much Weight to Anonymous Online Critics

I know this, always makes me laugh. If you want to win those people start to shoot like Lik does. First, what buys people, are outrages colours. A little shot of dopamine with that, and the viewer is yours. Subject is secondary and far, far behind.

 

[The_Traveler]

Oh, I am using digital technology for family events etc. and it is a great technology for that. But for my own satisfaction I do film, the real thing, where everything depends on me, not on computer. Well, I use digital spot meter and digital enlarger meter and timer. And I don't use D76 anymore.

Ego triumphs all.

 

[timor]

Oh, I am using digital technology for family events etc. and it is a great technology for that. But for my own satisfaction I do film, the real thing, where everything depends on me, not on computer. Well, I use digital spot meter and digital enlarger meter and timer. And I don't use D76 anymore.

Ego triumphs all.

? Explain.