Am I the only one that refuses?

[Skyclad]

I think there actually needs to be a certain balance of PP to make a picture look as good as you envisioned the shoot. The question is though, how much PP being used turns into "graphic design". I think thats a very tough call and the answer will obviously vary from person to person.

In my mind, using Photoshop (or similar) in pp to remove a shadow, or a fence, or phone lines and etc., I think thats where I would draw the line because you are taking away the facts from the photo. Now in no way am I saying that lessens the picture at all. In fact, it can make the picture better. But again it's taking away the facts from the actual photo.

As contradictory as it sounds, I consider pp in being: adjusting white balance, hue, saturation, B&W, cropping, tilting, rotating and things of the such. Anything more (in my personal taste), becomes a bit of a graphic design process.

But I believe that in truth, at the end of all thats said and done, there is no right or wrong here. It's all a matter of what we personally want our end result to be. One should not shun the other just because. For it is that, that gives us each our own signature style of photo's.

 

[burstintoflame81]

What is the point of your ramblings? To proclaim that you are hobbyist and loathe post processing? Thats fine, some people don't like PP. ( whether they are a little misguided or not, thats up to debate ). But I just don't get what you are going for here. If you are pissed about people post processing pictures then stop looking at pictures on the site. As stated by everyone else, post processing goes hand in hand with photography whether its film, or digital. If you like to have your pictures to look as low-fi as possible, thats fine, some people are into that. As for someone buying your photos, PP isn't only for people selling photos. If you want to color correct your picture you need to PP, or adjust brightness. Do you not like hanging pictures on the wall or displaying them?

If you are just a hobbyist that doesn't care about what his pics look like, then WTF are you on this forum for?

 

[Skyclad]

What is the point of your ramblings? To proclaim that you are hobbyist and loathe post processing? Thats fine, some people don't like PP. ( whether they are a little misguided or not, thats up to debate ). But I just don't get what you are going for here. If you are pissed about people post processing pictures then stop looking at pictures on the site. As stated by everyone else, post processing goes hand in hand with photography whether its film, or digital. If you like to have your pictures to look as low-fi as possible, thats fine, some people are into that. As for someone buying your photos, PP isn't only for people selling photos. If you want to color correct your picture you need to PP, or adjust brightness. Do you not like hanging pictures on the wall or displaying them?

If you are just a hobbyist that doesn't care about what his pics look like, then WTF are you on this forum for?

Forgive me here, but isnt your words being a bit touchy and harsh for a post thats in the beginners forum? Especially after 8 pages on this debate. Or are you just an abrasive type by nature and to be taken with a grain of salt?

I apologize ahead of time as I am a noob here, as that isnt an insult any way. But often times words without the physical being, being seen and heard can often times be misinterpreted.

 

[Fedaykin]

Now this is great troll/flamewar topic if I ever saw one.

YOU'RE a troll!

take THAT!

Nah, just enjoying the pointless rabble

 

[kundalini]

But often times words without the physical being, being seen and heard can often times be misinterpreted.

I think you misinterpreted what was being said. That was meant in the conjunctive, not the noun.



Ohhh, what the hell. The term "isn't" refers to a singular. I think you meant "aren't" when you stated 'but isnt your words being a bit touchy ' when words is a plural. another



sometimes I like to click the link in my signature. helps me forget the BS

 

[Skyclad]

But often times words without the physical being, being seen and heard can often times be misinterpreted.

I think you misinterpreted what was being said. That was meant in the conjunctive, not the noun.



Ohhh, what the hell. The term "isn't" refers to a singular. I think you meant "aren't" when you stated 'but isnt your words being a bit touchy ' when words is a plural. another



sometimes I like to click the link in my signature. helps me forget the BS

Sorry there. Grammar isn't always my stronghold (even with spell check). lol

 

[white]

In my mind, using Photoshop (or similar) in pp to remove a shadow, or a fence, or phone lines and etc., I think thats where I would draw the line because you are taking away the facts from the photo. Now in no way am I saying that lessens the picture at all. In fact, it can make the picture better. But again it's taking away the facts from the actual photo.

Underexposing a foreground so it becomes a silhouette is changing the facts.

Unless you are a photojournalist and your job is to tell the story as accurate as possible, why limit your art? Is there a super-secret badge of honor photo-purists get for making "truthful photographs"? Is there also one for only shooting in manual, and for doing everything "in-camera?" :lmao:

 

[burstintoflame81]

I don't think its too abrasive, I am not here to pat people on the head and boost their self esteem. I am being blunt and honest. Its ok to be a NOOB, but its also ok to know when you post a comment thats going to stir up crap. Now if the OP asked "Why does someone PP" then I would take the post a little more seriously.

 

[Boomn4x4]

I don't think its too abrasive, I am not here to pat people on the head and boost their self esteem. I am being blunt and honest. Its ok to be a NOOB, but its also ok to know when you post a comment thats going to stir up crap. Now if the OP asked "Why does someone PP" then I would take the post a little more seriously.

I already know WHY people PP... My question was who dosen't post pp??? My assumption, being as this IS a beginners forum, that there were more out there... The conclusion I have come to however, is that I'm the only one.

Thus far, the best post on here was #94 by kundalini.... and he posted exactly what I have been going at. I like seeing SOOC shots... THAT is what helps me become a better photographer. Take a look at the original... then take a look at his PP... I can look at the originaland see things that I can use to make my photography better.... That shot tells me, "make sure nothing in the background distracts from the foreground", "pay attention to objects in the foreground blocking other points of the shot", "don't center your subject in the middle of the shot" "You don't always need to blur out a back ground if it is interesting."

In his PP shot... all of those points are missed. I learn nothing from it other than, "that's a pretty neat shot.

 

[Raizels]

 

[dslrdave]

Hey everyone! I'm new on this forum, but this is a really cool thread!! I've recently been messing around with my new Fader HD Neutral Density Filter that I bought from FaderFilters.com, and I love it!! I'd like to get some pics up soon. Does anyone know anything about Faders or HD NDFs?

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I don't think its too abrasive, I am not here to pat people on the head and boost their self esteem. I am being blunt and honest. Its ok to be a NOOB, but its also ok to know when you post a comment thats going to stir up crap. Now if the OP asked "Why does someone PP" then I would take the post a little more seriously.

I already know WHY people PP... My question was who dosen't post pp??? My assumption, being as this IS a beginners forum, that there were more out there... The conclusion I have come to however, is that I'm the only one.

There have been tons of recent posts that the OP's state they have done no editing.

Thus far, the best post on here was #94 by kundalini.... and he posted exactly what I have been going at. I like seeing SOOC shots... THAT is what helps me become a better photographer. Take a look at the original... then take a look at his PP... I can look at the originaland see things that I can use to make my photography better.... That shot tells me, "make sure nothing in the background distracts from the foreground", "pay attention to objects in the foreground blocking other points of the shot", "don't center your subject in the middle of the shot" "You don't always need to blur out a back ground if it is interesting."

In his PP shot... all of those points are missed. I learn nothing from it other than, "that's a pretty neat shot.

Umm, that can be learned from any image Processed or not.
It seems you need everyone to post both images for you to learn from.

 

[SrBiscuit]

Hey everyone! I'm new on this forum, but this is a really cool thread!! I've recently been messing around with my new Fader HD Neutral Density Filter that I bought from FaderFilters.com, and I love it!! I'd like to get some pics up soon. Does anyone know anything about Faders or HD NDFs?

****ing spammer.

 

[dslrdave]

****ing spammer.

Thanks for your help, man! This seems to be a pretty friendly forum. I was just asking if anyone had experience with these filters... I'm new to photography and to the forum. I apologize if I wasn't using "proper forum etiquette"...

 

[SrBiscuit]

well it's good to see you're a real person and not a bot! :thumbup:

sorry if i was harsh, it just seemed like you were trying to drive traffic to the filters site, and this thread doesnt have much to do with filters...sooooo i chalked it up to bots and spamming and the like.

please accept my sincere apology, and welcome to the forum!

:hug::