Anonymous takes down GoDaddy - Millions of sites down

[12sndsgood]

If your livelihood depends on your web presence, don't you have a responsibility to yourself to ensure, to a practical extent, that there is no single point of failure? To check that, if you are relying completely on somebody else that that somebody has, for example, a redundant DNS server? If they don't then get that redundancy elsewhere. Do any of you really think that GoDaddy can be trusted with your livelihood? If you are willing to trust them, don't whine when they fail.

Do you drive your car to work? if you do. your depending on your car for your livelyhood. would you ***** if your car broke down and left you stranded. sure most of us would. you depend on so many things for your livelyhood in everyday life. and when things happen, people are going to complain. but you can't really compare this to your care breaking down. you can compare this to someone coming over and flattening all your tires. the car is still broken down. but its not the car's fault. its the person who flattened your tires.

Analogies are always problematic. Right now I live only 4 miles from the studio, so I often walk - it happens to be a pleasant walk along a bank of the Hudson. I can also take the subway or the bus. I don't have a car right now, but if I needed one I could and would rent or borrow if my livelihood depended on it. Most of my life I have also had a bicycle. I've worked as a cinematographer for quite a lot of my life, and the idea of not turning up to a shoot because my car broke down is just not acceptable, and it is something I took care to avoid.

My original post did, however, include the phrase "to a practical extent" which implies that one should weigh up the likelihood, prevention cost and potential damage extent of the failure of something that one relies on. You and I have different attitudes towards personal responsibility, perhaps. Bad things happen, whether through incompetence, accident or malice, and it is up to us to be prepared for them. In this case it wasn't someone letting the tyres down, it was a failure by GoDaddy, which I guess is the car in your analogy.

Putting the analogy aside, do you disagree with the idea that those whose livelihood depends on the interwebs should consider having some redundancy in their system?

I worried about that when I used the car analogy lol.

Do I blame go daddy because they were down? no I do not. this wasn't an oops i hit the wrong switch, this wasnt a server failure or backup failure, this was an attack. I'm sure the have redundancy. but who knows what damage the attack caused, maybe the attack specifically hit each redundancy. we don't know nor will we. when I drive to work i leave early so if im held up because of a traffic accident, or because I get a flat. i have a spare tire in case of a flat. but I don't plan on being attacked by a criminal. you can only plan for so much. Just seems odd people want to blame the victim in this case and not the criminal. Go Daddy never would have spent and entire day fixing the mess if they weren't attacked. and even if they had reduncancy, i'm sure a lot of the downtime was spent on figuring out the attack itself and make sure the hole was closed up so they can't do it again. its just not as simple as pulling out a server and throwing one in.

 

[Helen B]

Do I blame go daddy because they were down? no I do not. this wasn't an oops i hit the wrong switch, this wasnt a server failure or backup failure, this was an attack. I'm sure the have redundancy.

Well GoDaddy disagrees - they say it wasn't an attack, but their fault.

"GoDaddy's CEO attributes the service outage to "a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. He adds that corrective measures had been taken to fix the problem."

They don't have redundancy in the DNS system, so it is wise to have a second DNS system provider.

 

[SamSpade1941]

Do I blame go daddy because they were down? no I do not. this wasn't an oops i hit the wrong switch, this wasnt a server failure or backup failure, this was an attack. I'm sure the have redundancy.

Well GoDaddy disagrees - they say it wasn't an attack, but their fault.

"GoDaddy's CEO attributes the service outage to "a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. He adds that corrective measures had been taken to fix the problem."

They don't have redundancy in the DNS system, so it is wise to have a second DNS system provider.

I would say this also , its better to say it was an internal issue related the network infrastructure than to say it was the network was taken down malicious users.

 

[Gromit801]

Do I blame go daddy because they were down? no I do not. this wasn't an oops i hit the wrong switch, this wasnt a server failure or backup failure, this was an attack. I'm sure the have redundancy.

Well GoDaddy disagrees - they say it wasn't an attack, but their fault.

"GoDaddy's CEO attributes the service outage to "a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. He adds that corrective measures had been taken to fix the problem."

They don't have redundancy in the DNS system, so it is wise to have a second DNS system provider.

I would say this also , its better to say it was an internal issue related the network infrastructure than to say it was the network was taken down malicious users.

Except that "Anonymous" has disavowed the outage as well. Not like them to lie about it, if it was them.

 

[12sndsgood]

Do I blame go daddy because they were down? no I do not. this wasn't an oops i hit the wrong switch, this wasnt a server failure or backup failure, this was an attack. I'm sure the have redundancy.

Well GoDaddy disagrees - they say it wasn't an attack, but their fault.

"GoDaddy's CEO attributes the service outage to "a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. He adds that corrective measures had been taken to fix the problem."

They don't have redundancy in the DNS system, so it is wise to have a second DNS system provider.

I would say this also , its better to say it was an internal issue related the network infrastructure than to say it was the network was taken down malicious users.

hacker got inside there network and corrupted the router. and internal network event corrupted the router. both mean the same thing. but one you keep quiet and one you tell the media.

 

[12sndsgood]

Well GoDaddy disagrees - they say it wasn't an attack, but their fault.

"GoDaddy's CEO attributes the service outage to "a series of internal network events that corrupted router data tables. He adds that corrective measures had been taken to fix the problem."

They don't have redundancy in the DNS system, so it is wise to have a second DNS system provider.

I would say this also , its better to say it was an internal issue related the network infrastructure than to say it was the network was taken down malicious users.

Except that "Anonymous" has disavowed the outage as well. Not like them to lie about it, if it was them.

so they say it was them. and then backpedal and say they had nothing to do with it. wonder why that is.

 

[Overread17 5]

Lets remember that most media (esp fast online media) doesn't verify the info they get. If they see a story spreading and a possible source of info they run with it. Chances are it could be a loan hacker hacked the company and the company is denying it; or it could be that one loan person decided to claim it was him and suddenly found the whole net believed him.