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I'm just worn out in the whole debate. It hurts my head. :P

I just finally decided that, in my personal opinion, you can be A professional, or you can be professional.

The noun vs the adjective.

That is a great idea.
 
I'm just worn out in the whole debate. It hurts my head. :P

I just finally decided that, in my personal opinion, you can be A professional, or you can be professional.

The noun vs the adjective.



That is a great idea.

:thumbup: The only thing I would add is that you can be A professional, you can be professional, and some can be both.
 
I'm just worn out in the whole debate. It hurts my head. :P

I just finally decided that, in my personal opinion, you can be A professional, or you can be professional.

The noun vs the adjective.



That is a great idea.

:thumbup: The only thing I would add is that you can be A professional, you can be professional, and some can be both.

Yeah, I didn't mean to say that it's either/or. Preferably a professional would be both. lol
 
Learning composition and the technical details don't make you a photographer. Photography is an ART, and i think all ART needs to be self-taught.

Wow, who know that so many famous people such as Dali, Matisse, Monet, Renoir, Van Gogh and even Warhol, just to name a few, were not really artist, since they all studied the art of painting. FYI, this is just a fraction of the great masters that all studied Art. Just think all this time I have considered Leonardo da Vinci a great artist only to find out that it can not be since he studied under the tutelage of another famous artist, Andrea del Verrocchio. Verrocchio also taught Pietro Perugino and Lorenzo di Credi.

Letter to the Vatican:

Dear Pope,

It is with great regret that I must inform you that the Art work in the Sistine Chapel is a fraud. You see, it has been discovered that Michelangelo
apprenticed to and studied art under the tutelage of Ghirlandaio. Hence-forth please refer to all works of decoration painted by Michelangelo as pictures.

Sincerely,

The Guild of the True Self Taught Artist


My point... is... if you took all the classes Da Vinci did, could you have panted that ceiling? i doubt it.. He may have used the techniques he learned... but the ART came from him.
 
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It's probably just as worthless with them, but there's no smiley for that.
 



Do I win? Please tell me I win. Is that a yes? Don't you understand...I NEED this....I'm fragile.
 
I love a goat!
 
Learning composition and the technical details don't make you a photographer. Photography is an ART, and i think all ART needs to be self-taught.

Wow, who know that so many famous people such as Dali, Matisse, Monet, Renoir, Van Gogh and even Warhol, just to name a few, were not really artist, since they all studied the art of painting. FYI, this is just a fraction of the great masters that all studied Art. Just think all this time I have considered Leonardo da Vinci a great artist only to find out that it can not be since he studied under the tutelage of another famous artist, Andrea del Verrocchio. Verrocchio also taught Pietro Perugino and Lorenzo di Credi.

Letter to the Vatican:

Dear Pope,

It is with great regret that I must inform you that the Art work in the Sistine Chapel is a fraud. You see, it has been discovered that Michelangelo
apprenticed to and studied art under the tutelage of Ghirlandaio. Hence-forth please refer to all works of decoration painted by Michelangelo as pictures.

Sincerely,

The Guild of the True Self Taught Artist


My point... is... if you took all the classes Da Vinci did, could you have panted that ceiling? i doubt it.. He may have used the techniques he learned... but the ART came from him.

So then, in your opinion what does that make the likes of a Han van Meegeren?
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I love a goat!


Funny, you don't look Scottish. :mrgreen:

I'm hitting the gong!
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van Meergeren seems to have been an outstanding craftsman and artist, but he certainly calls into question a whole lot of things about the whole business of art, in all senses. I think he's very underappreciated because everyone's still mad.
 
Oh look. ANOTHER thread on the debate around the word professional.
 
Oh look. ANOTHER thread on the debate around the word professional.
Even better, some want to debate Art as well. Seriously Manaheim, what is a 5 gallon bucket of gasoline with out a box of matches???:wink:
 

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