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So his opinions are based on anger not because they really are bad. Denial

Not necessarily... but when someone brings up 4 of my threads, (some from months ago) and starts flaming in them when I was getting good reviews and helpful C&C's YES... I take his opinion is based on his anger because I said in another thread his picture was bad compared to another's he tried to flame.
 
OMG :( I have to try and experiment that and see how they come out. Maybe you should re-size the web images to 600px? Where do you put your watermarks? (if you have them)

I don't watermark, I simply got off Photobucket and went to Flicker where you can eliminate right click save. I will no longer post on sights that allow right click save. Now they can still screen save then crop. I only post shots on facebook that I enjoy sharing and don't care if people copy.
I really would be pissed if I was charging though, because that's stealing.
 
So his opinions are based on anger not because they really are bad. Denial
Not necessarily... but when someone brings up 4 of my threads, (some from months ago) and starts flaming in them when I was getting good reviews and helpful C&C's YES... I take his opinion is based on his anger because I said in another thread his picture was bad compared to another's he tried to flame.
But they aren't bad I actually like some of them. They may have been not as good but they are definitely not bad. Here is the thing I had no preconceived notions about you I even put my feelings aside about you charging and gave my honest opinion and you got defensive. You know how many people here complain about 6 month pros. Search it, I was just warning you of what may happen. Them you went nuts because I didn't like your work. I'm not the only one. People here said they were just ok.
 
I picked up my first dslr 8 months ago

No offense, but you didn't have to tell us that, we could tell it :)



There is a sea of people fighting on craigslist and almost no one looking there for photographers. I'd recommend you get a good solid foundation in your abilities before even thinking of trying to charge someone. Even if you find someone ignorant enough to pay you, later one they'll be pissed they paid you when they realized what they could have gotten with someone else.

Where do you all advertise?

You're asking us to tell you where we advertise? Lol! Most pros won't even share business knowledge like that with their best friends.

Dallas... sorry you got your feelings hurt when I responded to your response in Hatch's thread. But no need to dredge up all of my old posts and start flaming in them, and in this one! LOLOL.
I must have struck a nerve, but I was just being honest. I think others would agree with me too.

ROFL! I literally LAUGHED when I read your post... it was truly hilarious, because it was so ignorant and full of incorrectness. It struck my curiousity to look at some of your "work" and I laughed even harder... thanks for making my day!
 
and that was the decision to start hiring others to do what they do best. I am like you seem to be. I can do it all myself. :lol: BUT, I know I can't do it better than the people trained to do some of this stuff, nor do I have the time.

Now that is business. Thumbs up for that!
What I believe doing everything yourself is not really a business. It is self-employed. By the time you hire others, this is real business. We only have 24 hours to make money, when you hired another person, now suddenly you have 48 hours to make money because someone else contribute his/her hours to make money for you.
 
So his opinions are based on anger not because they really are bad. Denial
Not necessarily... but when someone brings up 4 of my threads, (some from months ago) and starts flaming in them when I was getting good reviews and helpful C&C's YES... I take his opinion is based on his anger because I said in another thread his picture was bad compared to another's he tried to flame.
But they aren't bad I actually like some of them. They may have been not as good but they are definitely not bad. Here is the thing I had no preconceived notions about you I even put my feelings aside about you charging and gave my honest opinion and you got defensive. You know how many people here complain about 6 month pros. Search it, I was just warning you of what may happen. Them you went nuts because I didn't like your work. I'm not the only one. .

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Sabrian attacks other people's work, not even knowing what "good work" actually is. She makes statements based on incorrectness, and her own work is literally atrocious. I've actually never seen this before; usually people who put other people's work down, at least have decent work themselves. Hmmph. Go figure. There's one born every minute! lol
 
Not necessarily... but when someone brings up 4 of my threads, (some from months ago) and starts flaming in them when I was getting good reviews and helpful C&C's YES... I take his opinion is based on his anger because I said in another thread his picture was bad compared to another's he tried to flame.
But they aren't bad I actually like some of them. They may have been not as good but they are definitely not bad. Here is the thing I had no preconceived notions about you I even put my feelings aside about you charging and gave my honest opinion and you got defensive. You know how many people here complain about 6 month pros. Search it, I was just warning you of what may happen. Them you went nuts because I didn't like your work. I'm not the only one. .
+1Sabrian attacks other people's work, not even knowing what "good work" actually is. She makes statements based on incorrectness, and her own work is literally atrocious. I've actually never seen this before; usually people who put other people's work down, at least have decent work themselves. Hmmph. Go figure. There's one born every minute! lol
they say I'm in the glass house.
 
I'm just gonna take Bitter Jewelers advice on to know who's advice to disregard on here. I've seen your work, and i'm not impressed at all. So everyone thats been saying "pot meet kettle" they are right. Climb off your high horse please. I know I have tons to learn still, but at least people are happy and willing to pay for my services. I HIGHLY doubt anyone on here would want to pay for your services...so no WIN for you.
Again, im learning and trying to grow every day. My passion in this field is driving me and I think I put out some great work considering i'm less than a year into this. Right now I'm trying to turn "great" into AWESOME. :thumbup:
 
Lol pot or kettle we are both still black. Just because I suck doesn't make you any better. At least I'm not in denial about it. Right now you are turning alright to good. You seriously need to be knocked down a peg. Also no one has complemented your pics on this thread they have just been giving you business advice. Open your eyes. Go ahead ask bitter if he thinks your pics are awesome.
 
So his opinions are based on anger not because they really are bad. Denial
Not necessarily... but when someone brings up 4 of my threads, (some from months ago) and starts flaming in them when I was getting good reviews and helpful C&C's YES... I take his opinion is based on his anger because I said in another thread his picture was bad compared to another's he tried to flame.
But they aren't bad I actually like some of them. They may have been not as good but they are definitely not bad. Here is the thing I had no preconceived notions about you I even put my feelings aside about you charging and gave my honest opinion and you got defensive. You know how many people here complain about 6 month pros. Search it, I was just warning you of what may happen. Them you went nuts because I didn't like your work. I'm not the only one. People here said they were just ok.

I could care LESS if someone even 1 month into this biz wants to charge! Why? Because i'm confident and secure with MYSELF and my abilities. You on the other hand seem to be butt-hurt that im charging and are taking it way too personally. If you been at this for years and are still doing free shoots and never charging then you aren't doing something/anything right. And I think you know that thats why you seem to have such a strong opinion on my situation....
 
Sabrina, on a serious note, have you thought about contacting a advertising/marketing agent? Sometimes it is good to have other pros do what they are good at. But start talking to some. Consults are typically free. There is a point where you need to stop trying to do everything yourself. Been there. Done that. You will find the pros will get you better results, instead of you learning photography, learning web design, learning marketing, learning accounting, etc.

This is the best advice you have given me! It's just so exhausting doing it all myself. There are ideas constantly running through my head. Most of the times I don't know where to begin. I've done everything ass backwards starting a biz without actually knowing anything about business! I guess its true when people say you have to spend money to make money. Thanks for the suggestions Bitter :) Im definitely gonna look into all of that.

You should spend your time cultivating your photographic ideas, not figuring everything else out.
Yes, it takes money to make money. But the neat little thing about that, is hiring pros, will yield you a much more professional result, making you look much more appealing to a consumer. I started my business and only knew what I have seen through the years working for others.

I am in a high traffic office building downtown, and I still have my matboard stencil cut sign double sided tape stuck to the wall.
Hard to take that seriously, right? Next month I will be getting proper signage. One thing at a time. :)

Oh duh! you're a jeweler! Where can I see your work? What type of jewerly do you make?
 
yes its flash. I wish i had an html option... :P
 
anyone can charge doesn't make you good. You're the prime example. What's worse is you can dish out but you cant take.
 
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