Autumn Portrait Sessions With Friend

[SJ_PhotoG]

My advice? If you don't want to hear what people have to say about your pictures, don't join a photography forum and post your pictures. Like me, you're new to photography and thus your work leaves something to be desired. That's OK, I don't know about you but that's why I joined the forum in the first place. You should always take advice you get on the internet with a grain of salt, but that being said - it's free advice on how to take better pictures!

From what I've observed over the past month, many of the people posting on your thread know what they're talking about. It would be a good idea to at least take note. There's always room for self-improvement.

My advice for you is to take any advice you get on here with a table spoon of salt. After snooping around pretty much everyone that posted "critique" on here has no photos that they took themselves uploaded, are not paid professionals, have no credentials, and are forum goers/gear heads more so than they are photographers......I'm still in search of a proper professional mentor that I can learn off of as that's the best way to learn in my opinion a long with hard self critique and self education through books and lectures.

If I followed half of the advice that I get on internet forums I'd be dead by now, I've ruined 2 lenses, screwed up two videos, and got plenty of other bad advice on other internet forums from people that weren't professionals and lacked credentials (yet they said they were "pro") and it's no different here......I might even go out of my way and pay a local professional to meet up with and discuss topics with regarding my photography as I've seen other people do that with success.

GL on here though.

 

[Derrel]

Actually you're incorrect. I have studied composition in depth and the rule of thirds applies to my photos and you obviously lack the knowledge of how to obtain balance in a photo. If you pose someone right in the middle of a field you wind up with a photo that is unbalanced, plain, and boring. If you have them "leaving" the frame as I had her in my first few shots you obtain more balance as there's dead space on the left and shes on the right eyeing down the camera with that mysterious seductive look that I was aiming for, I gave it a frost like look and white vignetting to match as this creates a sense of infinite "field" that shes walking through on a beautiful winter day and leaves the viewer wondering and it also makes her look mysterious and seductive this was all created using "tunnel vision" and finding a small field, not using flash to blow the background, using white vignetting to create that infinite field effect, a long with her leaving the frame right on the third of the frame to create a proper balance that captures the viewers eye as shes perceived to be leaving the frame.

This is called creating balance using the rule of thirds......Also, here eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera on the first picture so you obviously aren't looking at the same pictures as me.

Again, on the second B&W shot her eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera.....are you looking at the same pictures as me or arguing for arguing sakes (wouldn't surprise me after looking at your post history and you have ZERO pictures to back up that you're an experienced photographer).

Calling having your own style and using the rule of thirds a long with a certain style an "unstudied composition" is laughable in my book as looking outside of the frame creates a sense of dissonance and mystery bringing the viewer into the photo and makes your photos more intriguing, obviously you have failed to study composition and what emotions they can create.

Before I shot photography I shot video so most of the things from video transfer over to photography....I wasn't a complete novice when I started photography.

Where are your well composed photos? What do you consider studied compositions? Funny you mention these things since I have read professional wedding photographers books such as Roberto Valenzela's book which goes into composition into much detail and he was rated as one of the top 10 wedding/portraiture photographer in the world!

Also, about half of my photos posted were shot in portrait aka vertical alignment so you're just trying to be rude and have nothing to base it off of so you just make stuff up....almost troll like.

I'd suggest that you buy some books and actually shoot some photography instead of posting on here 24/7 with no photos to back up your claims or any references. The photos turned out great and she looks beautiful in them if you don;t like them and prefer boring standing in the middle of the frame mom & pop shots than look elsewhere, I'm developing my own style and I find it funny that the people that have negative things to say either have less than mediocre photos in their gallery or are 24/7 forum posters with NO photos at all.



Same thing to the guy above, he has no photos listed and says composition is off yet I have already received a ton of compliments from complete strangers on my photographs and continue to do so....my composition is right on for the balance that I'm trying to create. Like I said, if you want mom & pop boring stale umbrella shots that anyone can take with the subject in the center of the frame please look elsewhere.......I'm doing my own thing.

Your self-stated seven months in photography led me to believe you were a relative beginner. I've only been taking pictures since I was 10 years old, so I've only got 39 years' worth of experience, and I still have plenty to learn. I'm trying to learn all the time. Earlier this year I took a three-day, on-line six hour-per-day course on posing of people, and over the last couple of months, I've read two books on photography and have purchased three others. I guess I learned a few things from your posts too. Sorry to have offended you.

 

[jaomul]

My advice? If you don't want to hear what people have to say about your pictures, don't join a photography forum and post your pictures. Like me, you're new to photography and thus your work leaves something to be desired. That's OK, I don't know about you but that's why I joined the forum in the first place. You should always take advice you get on the internet with a grain of salt, but that being said - it's free advice on how to take better pictures!

From what I've observed over the past month, many of the people posting on your thread know what they're talking about. It would be a good idea to at least take note. There's always room for self-improvement.

My advice for you is to take any advice you get on here with a table spoon of salt. After snooping around pretty much everyone that posted "critique" on here has no photos that they took themselves uploaded, are not paid professionals, have no credentials, and are forum goers/gear heads more so than they are photographers......I'm still in search of a proper professional mentor that I can learn off of as that's the best way to learn in my opinion a long with hard self critique and self education through books and lectures.

If I followed half of the advice that I get on internet forums I'd be dead by now, I've ruined 2 lenses, screwed up two videos, and got plenty of other bad advice on other internet forums from people that weren't professionals and lacked credentials (yet they said they were "pro") and it's no different here......I might even go out of my way and pay a local professional to meet up with and discuss topics with regarding my photography as I've seen other people do that with success.

GL on here though.

Curious though, if you don't value opinions here why did you seek them?

 

[rexbobcat]

Actually you're incorrect. I have studied composition in depth and the rule of thirds applies to my photos and you obviously lack the knowledge of how to obtain balance in a photo. If you pose someone right in the middle of a field you wind up with a photo that is unbalanced, plain, and boring. If you have them "leaving" the frame as I had her in my first few shots you obtain more balance as there's dead space on the left and shes on the right eyeing down the camera with that mysterious seductive look that I was aiming for, I gave it a frost like look and white vignetting to match as this creates a sense of infinite "field" that shes walking through on a beautiful winter day and leaves the viewer wondering and it also makes her look mysterious and seductive this was all created using "tunnel vision" and finding a small field, not using flash to blow the background, using white vignetting to create that infinite field effect, a long with her leaving the frame right on the third of the frame to create a proper balance that captures the viewers eye as shes perceived to be leaving the frame.

This is called creating balance using the rule of thirds......Also, here eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera on the first picture so you obviously aren't looking at the same pictures as me.

Again, on the second B&W shot her eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera.....are you looking at the same pictures as me or arguing for arguing sakes (wouldn't surprise me after looking at your post history and you have ZERO pictures to back up that you're an experienced photographer).

Calling having your own style and using the rule of thirds a long with a certain style an "unstudied composition" is laughable in my book as looking outside of the frame creates a sense of dissonance and mystery bringing the viewer into the photo and makes your photos more intriguing, obviously you have failed to study composition and what emotions they can create.

Before I shot photography I shot video so most of the things from video transfer over to photography....I wasn't a complete novice when I started photography.

Where are your well composed photos? What do you consider studied compositions? Funny you mention these things since I have read professional wedding photographers books such as Roberto Valenzela's book which goes into composition into much detail and he was rated as one of the top 10 wedding/portraiture photographer in the world!

Also, about half of my photos posted were shot in portrait aka vertical alignment so you're just trying to be rude and have nothing to base it off of so you just make stuff up....almost troll like.

I'd suggest that you buy some books and actually shoot some photography instead of posting on here 24/7 with no photos to back up your claims or any references. The photos turned out great and she looks beautiful in them if you don;t like them and prefer boring standing in the middle of the frame mom & pop shots than look elsewhere, I'm developing my own style and I find it funny that the people that have negative things to say either have less than mediocre photos in their gallery or are 24/7 forum posters with NO photos at all.



Same thing to the guy above, he has no photos listed and says composition is off yet I have already received a ton of compliments from complete strangers on my photographs and continue to do so....my composition is right on for the balance that I'm trying to create. Like I said, if you want mom & pop boring stale umbrella shots that anyone can take with the subject in the center of the frame please look elsewhere.......I'm doing my own thing.

And your own thing appears to be mediocre. This isn't videography. We don't have motion and sound for you to evoke a feeling in us.

Why do I want to feel mystery with this woman? The photo is bright. The lighting appears to be soft evening light. There's a white vignette. None of that says mystery to me. It's creating the wrong kind of dissonance. It's creating a contradiction.

Explaining your artistic reasoning behind a photo is useless my friend. Utterly. Useless. Unless you convey what your telling us in he photo, which you obviously haven't.


P.S. The rest of the photos are average as well.

So if you're not capable of research and understanding good, useable advice from bad advice, then please grow up and try again.

 

[MK3Brent]

The last image makes her face look like a big orange blob.
You can try a couple different ways to fix that kind of thing. Either try adjusting WB in post, or if that couldn't help, the next time use some fill flash.

She has a very interesting pinky, it looks like it ends at the first knuckle of the ring finger.

 

[The_Traveler]

This is pretty interesting.
You've been taking pictures for 6 months with an entry level camera yet both you and you family are much better equipped as far as knowledge and opinions than any of us.
OK, you're an as yet undiscovered genius and I won't try and get in your way. (although I do think that your response to my thread -"At the Gallery' was a bit untutored.)
All the composition and vignette issues may well be an issue of taste where yours will win out in the end and be recognized as a new esthetic but focus?

In this picture below, her hairline is in focus, the rest not so much.
I'm certain that's what you were going for, but that's much too avant garde for me.
I'm much more traditional where I'd like to actually have the eyes in focus.

Perhaps its my years shooting that is the handicap for me; I'm not open to new stuff.

 

[spacefuzz]

I only have 15 years of experience and have uploaded plenty of images on this forum and plenty of publications....but feel free to ignore me as well

1. I dont mind the comp too much, as the sense of place is nice, however based on her pose it is pulling my eye a little too much out of frame. I would angle her a bit differently to better the flow of the image. Rim lighting is a great effect, but in this instance you just blew out the highlights. If you dont want to work with a flash (and I work outdoors with a flash all the time, its not that hard) at least use a reflector. You will also get catch light in her eyes which will help the image portray that spark of life.

2. This doesnt work because she is walking OUT of the frame, if you had her walking INTO the field it would portray what you were after. If she is leaving the field behind I would like to see her back turned and her looking over her shoulder. The vignette is too heavy, make it subtle. Dont use a big gold watermark on a black and white image.

3. Comp is nice, you want a reflector to give her eyes sparkle again and watch the stray light hitting her head. That just screams I didnt fully look at my composition before clicking the shutter.

4. Pose is nice, the dead tree on the left does nothing for the photo. Make this a square image and it will be stronger.

5. Doesnt do much for me.

6. Great light. Here is where you want her to the left of the frame looking into it, yet you centered her. Confused as to why. If I was setting up the shot I would have repositioned things so she was gazing at the statue perhaps, or so that there was depth portrayed behind her a bit better for a sense of place.

7. Excellent light, last light of the day it looks like. The best light in the series, and a good look by the model. But her eyes are dark and Id like to see some catch light in them. You could have angled her differently to let the sun catch in her eyes.


Overall Id say your on the right track but definitely a beginner, but you are at least shooting during golden hour and that is an excellent start. We all have things to learn so dont get defensive, its art and someone will always love it....and someone will always say its absolute and utter garbage.

 

[tirediron]

All or nothing.

That's just the way I roll!

I will add a positive note of critique here; the colour that was chosen for the large, obnoxious watermark does coordinate nicely with the background tones of most of the images.

 

[shortpants]

Lol you asked for advice but you don't want to take it. People are trying to help you improve your photography and you're taking it personally. I can't comment on all of them individually but overall besides some technical issues like eyes out of focus, your over-processing kills them. You have some nice light in some of them and they have potential. Keep the things people have told you in mind next time you shoot. You've got some good c&c here. If you want to learn you have to swallow your pride. If you were taking a class with a professional they would most likely give you the same critique as everyone here.

 

[MLeeK]

Not well composed? I dont know whether to take you seriously or not as they appear fine to my eye and her eye a long with her family's eye.....I used the rule of thirds in the photos where you say shes "slamming into the edge" as it draws my eye more to the subject than say if she was placed in the center which would look boring and flat and would create a sense of unbalance.

I like that walking, third of frame while the subject is looking at the camera composition and pose. As for the white vignette....honestly I could care less if it's some out dated fad as I like it and I feel it fits the mood of the photography and the season very well just because someone says something is a fad or even if it was a fad if I like it than I'm keeping it as I wouldn't be true to my inner "artistic" self if I got rid of it because it has the label of being a fad. So yea, that was the look that I was going for.

I agree she looks best when you can see her jawline but I don't like to take every shot from the same exact perspective as it gets old fast. Lighting was/is fine in my book as I didn't use any external lighting and all shots were taken during the golden hour. I figure I don't like the idea of lugging around an umbrella/light stand, and holding them weights for every shot.....just doesn't fit my style as I'm a more mobile shooter and would prefer to shoot from different angles, perspectives, and with different poses during the golden hour or while using somewhat decent natural lighting obtained through other methods.

To each their own but I'm very satisfied with the photos I just wanted to share them on this forum. Thanks for your thoughts and opinions .

Your understanding of the "rule of thirds" is seriously flawed...the first photo has a bunch of empty, dead space on the left hand side of the frame, and her eyes are looking right OUT of the frame. On the second B&W shot, where she is walking "out of the frame"...those are what could be called unstudied compositions. You have been shooting pictures for all of seven months now,and you're telling me that your compositions are good, and that you, and her family, both think your work is good. Okay, I have grown to expect that kind of a response from many new shooters. As far as not being able to tell if I was "serious or not" when I said there were some photos that were not well-composed...I was being serious. I never joke about things like that. But apparently, you seem to think that the above work is beyond reproach, and that you have achieved a satisfactory degree of perfection. Apparently you feel there there is nothing that could be improved in your compositions above..

Try turning the camera to vertical once in while in the next seven months. And please, remember this: people evaluate photographs of their family members and loved ones based on their emotional connection to the PEOPLE shown in the photos...and NOT on the "quality of the photography". She looks like a wonderful, wonderful young woman, and I am sure her family loves her. I would suggest that some books on portraiture and on posing would help you progress. Your camera seems to be giving pretty good exposures, and it seems to be focusing pretty well, so the technical aspects your camera is bringing to the table are pretty good, so her family is seeing clear,sharp, well-focused shots of their darling daughter/sister/granddaughter.

Actually you're incorrect. I have studied composition in depth and the rule of thirds applies to my photos and you obviously lack the knowledge of how to obtain balance in a photo.

ROFLMAO! You really think that? You're on your way to fame, honey.

If you pose someone right in the middle of a field you wind up with a photo that is unbalanced, plain, and boring. If you have them "leaving" the frame as I had her in my first few shots you obtain more balance as there's dead space on the left and shes on the right eyeing down the camera with that mysterious seductive look that I was aiming for, I gave it a frost like look and white vignetting to match as this creates a sense of infinite "field" that shes walking through on a beautiful winter day and leaves the viewer wondering and it also makes her look mysterious and seductive this was all created using "tunnel vision" and finding a small field, not using flash to blow the background, using white vignetting to create that infinite field effect, a long with her leaving the frame right on the third of the frame to create a proper balance that captures the viewers eye as shes perceived to be leaving the frame.

This is called creating balance using the rule of thirds......Also, here eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera on the first picture so you obviously aren't looking at the same pictures as me.

BALANCE MEANS THAT THE NEGATIVE SPACE HAS MEANING. YOUR NEGATIVE SPACE HAS NO MEANING HERE.

Again, on the second B&W shot her eyes are looking DIRECTLY at the camera.....are you looking at the same pictures as me or arguing for arguing sakes (wouldn't surprise me after looking at your post history and you have ZERO pictures to back up that you're an experienced photographer).

Calling having your own style and using the rule of thirds a long with a certain style an "unstudied composition" is laughable in my book as looking outside of the frame creates a sense of dissonance and mystery bringing the viewer into the photo and makes your photos more intriguing, obviously you have failed to study composition and what emotions they can create.

Before I shot photography I shot video so most of the things from video transfer over to photography....I wasn't a complete novice when I started photography.

Where are your well composed photos? What do you consider studied compositions? Funny you mention these things since I have read professional wedding photographers books such as Roberto Valenzela's book which goes into composition into much detail and he was rated as one of the top 10 wedding/portraiture photographer in the world!

Also, about half of my photos posted were shot in portrait aka vertical alignment so you're just trying to be rude and have nothing to base it off of so you just make stuff up....almost troll like.

I'd suggest that you buy some books and actually shoot some photography instead of posting on here 24/7 with no photos to back up your claims or any references. The photos turned out great and she looks beautiful in them if you don;t like them and prefer boring standing in the middle of the frame mom & pop shots than look elsewhere, I'm developing my own style and I find it funny that the people that have negative things to say either have less than mediocre photos in their gallery or are 24/7 forum posters with NO photos at all.



Same thing to the guy above, he has no photos listed and says composition is off yet I have already received a ton of compliments from complete strangers on my photographs and continue to do so....my composition is right on for the balance that I'm trying to create. Like I said, if you want mom & pop boring stale umbrella shots that anyone can take with the subject in the center of the frame please look elsewhere.......I'm doing my own thing.

THAT WILL MAKE YOU A PROFESSIONAL WITH AMAZING IMAGES OVERNIGHT! Start a facebook page and go for it! I can promise you that you won't be the one that lands the big bucks. Your friends and family are there to encourage you. We're here to push you to be something better than average, mediocre or to show up on YouAreNotAPhotographer.com because I am pretty sure a couple of these might just land there. Maybe the field or the neon orange face.

WAYYYY to many for us to give you feedback on. 3 to 5 max.
There are some great shots here. Some with white balance issues, several with focus issues and the white vignette is not really appealing.

Well, why not simply take a minute, or two minutes, and give feedback on maybe one or two? Do you need to C&C every,single picture?

I will say to the OP that there are four horizontally framed shots here, and none of them really qualify as well-composed. I am not sure why she has been placed so that she is looking OUT of the frame or appears to be "slamming into the edge" of the frame in most of the horizontally oriented shots.As to that white vignette over a dark background...that has long been considered "Cheezy"...wjioch is fine is one want to go for that sort of a campy look...but I don't sense that that was what you wanted. I think the woman looks her absolute BEST when we can see her jawline, in shot #2...that's a good angle for her. Shown full-face, with flat, shadowless lighting, like on the porch, and in some of the other unnumbered frames, she doe not look so attractive.

Derrel~Had it been someone I know and know what they need or how to handle I would. However being incredibly new to the forum I didn't know this chick from Adam and singling out one or two photos would have been running the risk of being coddling, picking on or God only knows what else. Normally I'd pick the images with the problems one can change or fix and help with that. As with all newbies that's not always a good tactic. As you can see it was probably a good call in this case. She handled the very bland and minimal criticism like sh!t.

Hi, I had a great photo session with a friend on Friday and would like some thoughts on the photos. Gear used was a Rebel 450D and Tamron 17-50 Non VC. She's a natural red head so she has very fair skin. I'm still a novice (only have been shooting for 7 months now) so any advice would be greatly appreciated.




WHEN LOOKED AT IN FULL SIZE THIS ONE IS TOTALLY SOFT ON THE FOCUS. Probably something to do with your slow shutter speed here.

YOUR SOFT FOCUS FAILS TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THE FOCUS FELL SHORT ON THIS ONE. BALANCE HERE DOES NOT HAPPEN, SHE'S WALKING SMACK OUT OF THE IMAGE.

THIS ONE IS ALSO SOFT AT FULL SIZE. PROBABLY FROM THE 1/125 SHUTTER SPEED AND A NOT SO PERFECT HAND OR MOVING SUBJECT. IN FACT MOST ARE SOFT LIKE THIS AND I'D GUESS IT'S SHUTTER SPEED TO PLAY IN THEM.


TOTALLY MISSED FOCUS. NOT EVEN SHUTTER SPEED RELATED. GRAYSCALE




TOTALLY MISSED FOCUS AGAIN. FOCUS IS ON THE BOTTOM EDGE OF THAT RAILING. EVIDENTLY YOU DON'T PIXEL PEEP VERY OFTEN.




THIS ONE YOU SEEM TO HAVE HIT FOCUS ON, BUT YOU REALLY WENT OVER ON THE WARM. SHE'S YELLOW ORANGE.


YOU REALLY WENT OVER ON THE WARM HERE. SHE'S ELECTRIC ROAD SIGN ORANGE AROUND THE HAIR LINE. EYES ARE VERY SOFT. PROBABLY FROM THE 1/80 SHUTTER SPEED

WAYYYY to many for us to give you feedback on. 3 to 5 max.
There are some great shots here. Some with white balance issues, several with focus issues and the white vignette is not really appealing.

Thanks. I edited my post so it includes only 7 of my favorite shots. I didn't see any focus issues in any of my photos and I pixel peep most of the time but that's fine. Thanks for letting me know to lower my photo count though. . Also, I shoot in RAW and always give my photos a warm look so white balance doesn't really matter to me as I warm up all of my photos as a lot of photographers do. Thanks for taking notice though.

Also, I like the white vignetting as it gives it that winter frost look....just a personal stylistic decision.

So, which is it warm or frost? because the two don't exactly mix.

My advice? If you don't want to hear what people have to say about your pictures, don't join a photography forum and post your pictures. Like me, you're new to photography and thus your work leaves something to be desired. That's OK, I don't know about you but that's why I joined the forum in the first place. You should always take advice you get on the internet with a grain of salt, but that being said - it's free advice on how to take better pictures!

From what I've observed over the past month, many of the people posting on your thread know what they're talking about. It would be a good idea to at least take note. There's always room for self-improvement.

My advice for you is to take any advice you get on here with a table spoon of salt. After snooping around pretty much everyone that posted "critique" on here has no photos that they took themselves uploaded, are not paid professionals, have no credentials, and are forum goers/gear heads more so than they are photographers......I'm still in search of a proper professional mentor that I can learn off of as that's the best way to learn in my opinion a long with hard self critique and self education through books and lectures.

If I followed half of the advice that I get on internet forums I'd be dead by now, I've ruined 2 lenses, screwed up two videos, and got plenty of other bad advice on other internet forums from people that weren't professionals and lacked credentials (yet they said they were "pro") and it's no different here......I might even go out of my way and pay a local professional to meet up with and discuss topics with regarding my photography as I've seen other people do that with success.

GL on here though.

You came here and ASKED FOR help saying (and I quote this from your first post) "I'm still a novice (only have been shooting for 7 months now) so any advice would be greatly appreciated." You didn't like the fact that we didn't tell you that you are amazing, stupendous and the million dollar Annie Leibovitz. You're not. Sorry. You have potential, but only if you take direction, learn and grow. Obviously THAT isn't going to happen because there's no one qualified to give it to you and you know it all already.
As for questioning my credentials I have been in the field working professionally for over 10 years. It is my primary income and supports a family of 5. I do not now nor ever will share client images on a public forum. I'd never want my clients to see their images splashed all over a forum for everyone to pick apart. Poor form professionally. You will find that to be true with MANY to most professionals who have been in the business for any length of time.
I have a bachelors degree in Photo Journalism and have been shooting probably nearly as long as you've been alive.
I have taught photography at the college level for several years now.
I am also pretty sure I am NOT the next Annie Leibovitz and I STILL TO THIS DAY continue to learn and grow. I ask for advice here and elsewhere. I take classes constantly and take and USE the direction that the others give to me to grow all while applying it to my own personal style
As for Derrel, John and the others who tried to help you? You are really putting your stupid foot in your mouth there. They've all got more experience and credentials than I. I'm the low man on this totem pole.
I've seen many like you come and go over the years. You already know it all, so by all means don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out it. We can do nothing for you.
Good luck with that.

 

[MLeeK]

You've been warned about your attitude before. Why did you come back? http://www.thephotoforum.com/forum/...irlfriend-novice-photographer-c-c-needed.html

 

[The_Traveler]

I get a little kick out of new shooters who think, because they know a little, that there is no more to know.
Luckily my surgeon doesn't feel that way.

I'm afraid the OP has a unlikely future here.
He has established that he has no interest in hearing any criticism and has artistic reasons for any defect.

He may go far - if we are lucky.

 

[tirediron]

Annnnnnnndddddddddddddddddddd.... the Post of the Day award goes to............. <Drum Roll>

MLeek!

 

[MLeeK]

I get a little kick out of new shooters who think, because they know a little, that there is no more to know.
Luckily my surgeon doesn't feel that way.

I'm afraid the OP has a unlikely future here.
He has established that he has no interest in hearing any criticism and has artistic reasons for any defect.

He may go far - if we are lucky.

Would that be as in FAR AWAY?

Annnnnnnndddddddddddddddddddd.... the Post of the Day award goes to............. <Drum Roll>

MLeek!

<sorry, John>
I really thought about reporting myself for that one, but I know you guys will moderate and when I get really out of line you'll give me one of those free TPF vacations!

 

[tirediron]

I get a little kick out of new shooters who think, because they know a little, that there is no more to know.
Luckily my surgeon doesn't feel that way.

I'm afraid the OP has a unlikely future here.
He has established that he has no interest in hearing any criticism and has artistic reasons for any defect.

He may go far - if we are lucky.

Would that be as in FAR AWAY?

Annnnnnnndddddddddddddddddddd.... the Post of the Day award goes to............. <Drum Roll>

MLeek!

<sorry, John>
I really thought about reporting myself for that one, but I know you guys will moderate and when I get really out of line you'll give me one of those free TPF vacations!

I don't see anything that requires moderation; I was impressed that you put that much effort into responding to someone who clearly isn't interested in anything we have to say.