B&H Got Some 'Splaining To Do

[JacaRanda]

Would love to see the B&H lawyers grinding this one out.

Interesting read for me, in regards to journalism. Journalistic objectivity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[runnah]

i dont like my job. i know, ill complain instead of getting a better one.

Do you think people working in a warehouse have many options? Especially in a place like New York City? If the poor work environment exists, getting a new job just helps perpetuate it by letting it settle onto the next person.

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Honestly, it sounds like B&H needs to relocate to a different area with a better worker pool.

Sorry dude but you are very much off base.

 

[runnah]

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Let's play a game to see how many ignorant comments can be made...

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

 

[JacaRanda]

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Let's play a game to see how many ignorant comments can be made...

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

It very much seems that way, but video games and other electronic devices are more often the blame for our failing society.

 

[vintagesnaps]

At least the NY Times article (which I hadn't found when I saw this) explained what's going on, that there's a union interested in coming in and representing their warehouse workers. If there are problems now and have been problems in the past there may be legitimate complaints that need to be addressed.

I'm not just looking at a news source based on one article; I almost majored in journalism and have done and follow sports photojournalism and if I could do better than the posted article (as well as others I've seen from the same source) that tells me their quality is substandard.

I mean, a professional journalist or publication ought to be able to do a better job than me. Describing the company's history as 'long' is subjective, not factual. The fifth paragraph is a run-on sentence with too many commas. If I find myself mentally proofreading and editing then that tells me it's poorly done so I'm not going to find that to be a reliable source (and 5 or so paragraphs is enough).

(Maybe they need this - Associated Press Stylebook - and if they don't know about this much less use it, then I might as well go be a professional journalist, sheesh.)

 

[limr]

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Let's play a game to see how many ignorant comments can be made...

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

It very much seems that way, but video games and other electronic devices are more often the blame for our failing society.

"Funny" in the sort of "if I don't laugh I should scream" sort of way

 

[waday]

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Let's play a game to see how many ignorant comments can be made...

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

How amazingly true this is... and so refreshing to hear others think the same!

 

[The_Traveler]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

Edit: it is a kind of bullying by establishing the terms of the arguement and thus excluding someone else from the discussion without countering their arguement.

 

[runnah]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

Saying "why don't they find another job" isn't worthy of being called an opinion, it's more of a quip or a dismissal of the issue. Zero thought had gone into that statement. So yeah I am dismissing comments like that.

Its easy for those with a good education, money in the bank and options on the table to say "hey if your job sucks so bad then find another one." when in reality it's much harder than they could possibly imagine.

 

[limr]

Privilege is a buzz word if you have it. It's a very concrete reality to those who don't. This doesn't mean it explains everything or can be used to excuse anyone from doing their best and working hard, but it's incredibly frustrating to see it dismissed by those who don't fully understand what it's like to live life without it.

 

[The_Traveler]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

Saying "why don't they find another job" isn't worthy of being called an opinion, it's more of a quip or a dismissal of the issue. Zero thought had gone into that statement. So yeah I am dismissing comments like that.

Its easy for those with a good education, money in the bank and options on the table to say "hey if your job sucks so bad then find another one." when in reality it's much harder than they could possibly imagine.

Then respond to the person who said it rather than disqualifying anything people as a class say because they have 'privilege.'
That's a kind of prejudice that is maddening because it seems to soft.
My guess is that I am as 'privileged' as anyone here, does that mean that, unless I agree with you, I'm wrong?

 

[waday]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

I completely disagree with you. Sorry.

Case in point:

I mean, you work in a damn camera store after all, yet you can't manage to get one picture of the said infractions?

Comments such as 'pictures or it didn't happen' is quite ignorant and privileged. What, B&H provides free cameras to all of their workers to report on workplace safety? Yeah....

Case in point:

Well, there ya' go. If they weren't here, they wouldn't be having these problems.

I don't want to give this a political slant, but it's part of the article referenced. I've no sympathy for them if their allegations are true (and I don't necessarily believe they are).

No sympathy for other humans? So, it's ok to treat immigrants as garbage, because, you know, they're in this country illegally? Wow. No. Ignorant. Privileged. Wrong. Quite horrible.

Case in point:

Also, let's consider the source. Al Jazeera being critical of a Jewish owned company?

Let's look at the issue at hand. I don't care if Donald Trump reported it. Are we supposed to ignore the issue just because of the news source? Ignorant comment. Can't be bothered to try to understand the subject at hand? Privileged.

Case in point:

i dont like my job. i know, ill complain instead of getting a better one.

Assuming that everyone has the same marketability and can just pick up and change jobs? Privileged and quite ignorant.

Case in point:

Although it would be easy to go with the implied political motives of assuming disengeneous, I rather suspect it is a combination of retarded and lazy. Too retarded to realize they have been lazy in their attempt to present the complete picture required for a balanced story.

Horrible ad hominem attack. Privileged and ignorant to the point that they'd rather attack the news agency than try to understand the content or what is being presented. Who even uses the word 'retarded' anymore? That's quite offensive.

Case in point:

Honestly, it sounds like B&H needs to relocate to a different area with a better worker pool.

Do I even need to explain some of these comments and how they're coming from ignorant/privileged standpoints?

I can be ignorant, too! @Braineack, do you mean transfer to another country where the employers don't care about safety, and employees only care about trying to feed their families with the few pennies they make a day doing horrible, horrible work so that us privileged Americans can buy the next tech savvy toy?

 

[rexbobcat]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

Edit: it is a kind of bullying by establishing the terms of the arguement and thus excluding someone else from the discussion without countering their arguement.

Ironically, you are doing the exact same thing by denigrating the word 'privilege' by calling it a buzzword.

It is overused in some circumstances, but in this situation I find it apt.

 

[runnah]

I find that the more privileged the individual the less empathy they have for those without privilege.

This is an attempt to denigrate other people's opinion with vague unprovable, general allegations and using the buzzword 'privilege.'
Similar to what I would be doing if I said that I've found most people from Maine have no real sense of what is going on with the world?
It is disrespectful of the individual who has responded in good faith with their opinions.

Saying "why don't they find another job" isn't worthy of being called an opinion, it's more of a quip or a dismissal of the issue. Zero thought had gone into that statement. So yeah I am dismissing comments like that.

Its easy for those with a good education, money in the bank and options on the table to say "hey if your job sucks so bad then find another one." when in reality it's much harder than they could possibly imagine.

Then respond to the person who said it rather than disqualifying anything people as a class say because they have 'privilege.'
That's a kind of prejudice that is maddening because it seems to soft.
My guess is that I am as 'privileged' as anyone here, does that mean that, unless I agree with you, I'm wrong?

I did in a different comment but I didn't want to direct it at anyone, lest I hurt some feelings.

Well don't go turning my generalization into a declarative statement. Of course not all with privilege are rude and oblivious to those below their own status.

 

[The_Traveler]

Privilege is a buzz word if you have it. It's a very concrete reality to those who don't. This doesn't mean it explains everything or can be used to excuse anyone from doing their best and working hard, but it's incredibly frustrating to see it dismissed by those who don't fully understand what it's like to live life without it.

I didn't dismiss privilege as it exists.
I understand it, I have it because I am a well-educated white guy with a solid career.
But dismissing a person's statement indirectly, when they are in the conversation, is disrespectful and is an attempt to make a point by bullying without addressing the issue.