Cgipson banned? Huh?

[cynicaster]

Honestly, the first thing that comes to mind when I think of that guy—nay, the only thing that comes to mind when I think of that guy—is a propensity for indignant ranting and raving about the antics of folks he deems to be lesser photographers than himself. I quickly learned to just ignore that stuff, and I’m not saying I’m glad he’s banned, but I guess I’m far too new here to understand why it’s such a monumental loss. Experienced and knowledgeable as he may be, as far as I’m concerned, every disruptive and ornery harangue has the effect of negating a positive contribution of equal size.

IBTL

 

[hopdaddy]

I got along really well with Charlie............ And Intempest ,And Jez ,And ,and ,well I could list many . Point is ,the slot will be filled by someone,.. . I really would rather have "Bitter Jeweler" back , than some who are still here now, Filling his slot, However...," Bitter aspect" can stay GONE ! I hope you guys/Gals get my point .

" It's All the same ,Only the Names are Changed "

 

[mmaria]

I haven't been here for a very long time, but I liked him. He was one of the first people I memorized here on TPF.

 

[IByte]

90 days. You will have to ask the mods why. I don't want to get in trouble for telling you. I miss him too!

Oooooo Kathy likes the bad boys

 

[IByte]

QUOTE="runnah;3089783"]I think the obvious solution is to grant me the power to mod the moderators. Think Judge Judy but with a beard and penis.[/QUOTE]

.....Judge Runnah brown tv...."Guilty!! Aaaaalll of you are guilty!!!" layball:

 

[Derrel]

A few months ago, I suggested to Tirediron via PM that maybe TPF should begin a new forum sub-section, where beginning professionals and new pro's and part-time pros and such could come to bring up their issues and questions, ideas, and so on. After a while, the mod squad and the admins decided to put that into action, and the Aspiring Professionals Forum was born. At first, I really thought that questions and issues brought up in that forum would be approached with a bit more reasoned responses, and a lot less vitriol, and blame-assignment for ruining the entire industry,and so on. Apparently not. It seems that even in the Aspiring Professionals forum, a number of posters were given "both barrels", and occasionally, lessons in ad hominem communication via TPF...

I can take spirited discussion, even disagreement. Heck, I even enjoy seeing the occasional head-butting and testosterone-filled arguments that sometimes erupt here, between "the regulars" ,or "the regulars and newbies", or whatever. But I really think it's unfair to repeatedly and vociferously categorically berate or demean or humiliate the entire "beginner class of pro shooter", or the MWAC or GWAC, or the weekend baby-picture shooter, or whoever, over and over. Yeah, I know the industry is in dire straits...I used to make a full-time good living working in studio family portraiture, two decades ago. But that was THEN, and this is now. I spend (waste?) a lot of time here, trying to answer questions, provide info or insight, opinions, links, gear suggestions, and my own point of view. I willingly share what I know, with people who come here to TPF to ask questions and get advice and guidance. Some of you might consider me an a$$h0[e, and hey, I've received two temporary bans here in my five years or so here...but the one thing I try not to do is to repeatedly attack the entire generation of new shooters, and new pros, ad hominem. If you're an ass, I might respond in kind. But I think that ad hominem attacks on the entire class of new professionals and aspiring professionals, and just the brusque newbie-bashing, were keys here.

 

[JacaRanda]

Odd...........because I liked what Charlie offered the forum, is probably the same reason I had a tough time ignoring the not so nice stuff.

I had my on rule that I would not get caught up in anything. Dummy ME, lost my cool over comments about Howard Stern of all people!!!!! Sheeesshhh, how silly is that? (no need to answer )

 

[Overread16 4]

Ok people lets keep to moderator policy here and not end up going into personal details about this situation with regard to a member who is not able to speak here at present. We don't want to lock this thread, but if things get too personal we will close it down.



I've little to add to what has already been said by others; this was not a choice we made lightly and no one on the team as calling for a ban outright. It's just that if a member (any member) causes the same trouble over and over the reaction of the mod team escalates. Normally a notice or a warning is enough - sometimes people get carried away without realising it. When it repeats more and more a short term suspension normally suffices. This is one special case where such hasn't happened and we've ended up being slowly backed into a corner with regard to what options we have left open to us.
We've taken an option that does, however, leave the door open; wide open. We didn't want to close that door and issue a full ban - indeed we hate doing it. We don't get to be mods on this site by being trigger happy; but rather as a result of our input and presence in the community itself - as a result we hate having to push anyone out.



Note - we are sorry that it lists suspensions as bans, sadly its a limitation of the software and code which means that "ban" is given to anyone even if its only a few hours of suspended time.

 

[Bitter Jeweler]

I got along really well with Charlie............ And Intempest ,And Jez ,And ,and ,well I could list many . Point is ,the slot will be filled by someone,.. . I really would rather have "Bitter Jeweler" back , than some who are still here now, Filling his slot, However...," Bitter aspect" can stay GONE ! I hope you guys/Gals get my point .

" It's All the same ,Only the Names are Changed "

:hug::

 

[texkam]

Could someone recommend a ban-free photo forum?

 

[runnah]

I liked Chuck, he was a straight shooter who didn't pull punches. World needs more people like him.

 

[usayit]

Could someone recommend a ban-free photo forum?

dpreview perhaps?

 

[SCraig]

Charlie is my friend and one of the very few people on this forum that I truly respected because of, and not in spite of, his honest forthright manner. I am of the opinion that the chances of his returning are pretty much zero though. I do hope I find out where he lands though since I may just join him there.

 

[The_Traveler]

I emailed back and forth with Charlie, telling him how much everyone liked him and valued his truthfulness and that, if he could see his way clear to temper his behavior to fit in a bit better, many people, including me, would be happy to see him here.

 

[Heitz]

Free Kevin Mitnick!!! I mean.... Un-ban Charlie!!!