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I emailed back and forth with Charlie, telling him how much everyone liked him and valued his truthfulness and that, if he could see his way clear to temper his behavior to fit in a bit better, many people, including me, would be happy to see him here.

Fit in a bit better? His behavior made him unique in a crowd of same-y forum goers. I see that as a good thing.
 
I got along really well with Charlie............ And Intempest ,And Jez ,And ,and ,well I could list many . Point is ,the slot will be filled by someone,.. . I really would rather have "Bitter Jeweler" back , than some who are still here now, Filling his slot, However...," Bitter aspect" can stay GONE ! I hope you guys/Gals get my point .

" It's All the same ,Only the Names are Changed "

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omg your back :)
 
I don't make the rules - and we don't know what all the issues are - and in truth, it's none of our business.

It's up to Charlie to fit in - if he wants and how he wants.
 
brutal honesty is frowned upon in the world of political correctness,despite the fact it may lead to meaningful dialogue.

Let's be realistic though...
Theres honesty.
Theres brutal honesty.
And theres just being a ****

Being a **** never leads to meaningful dialog.

There is no reason why someone cant express an opinion in a civil manner.
 
brutal honesty is frowned upon in the world of political correctness,despite the fact it may lead to meaningful dialogue.

Let's be realistic though...
Theres honesty.
Theres brutal honesty.
And theres just being a ****

Being a **** never leads to meaningful dialog.

There is no reason why someone cant express an opinion in a civil manner.

I totally agree. In my opinion most/many of you experienced photographers here are straight shooters without any brut to it at all. I guess it's perception or something.
 
brutal honesty is frowned upon in the world of political correctness,despite the fact it may lead to meaningful dialogue.

Let's be realistic though...
Theres honesty.
Theres brutal honesty.
And theres just being a ****

Being a **** never leads to meaningful dialog.

There is no reason why someone cant express an opinion in a civil manner.

Exactly. Brutal honesty doesn't have to be delivered brutally. It can be direct, forthright, honest, and harsh, but it doesn't have to be said in a manner that is also demeaning. That does not encourage discussion; that shuts it down.

Again, I say this as a person who would like to see Charlie come back. I appreciated his honesty. I also think he was inappropriate at times. His gruffness didn't bother me on a personal level, but I still recognized it as being just too much sometimes.
 
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This is a ban that does not bother me in the least. Perhaps I'm the minority. That's fine. Was a bit tired of his excessive use of exclamation points and smilies.

#shrug
 
brutal honesty is frowned upon in the world of political correctness,despite the fact it may lead to meaningful dialogue.

Let's be realistic though...
Theres honesty.
Theres brutal honesty.
And theres just being a ****

Being a **** never leads to meaningful dialog.

There is no reason why someone cant express an opinion in a civil manner.

Exactly. Some of these comments are getting kind of off track with the actual circumstances at hand. ;) It's an online photo forum, people...you're expected to play nice. As was already explained, a temp suspension still reads as a ban on the account, it's a vBulletin setup, not a TPF exclusive. Charlie knows from personally chatting with me exactly when he is free to return if he feels like it...he likes it here and has lots of friends. :) He is also an intelligent adult who isn't afraid to own his own issues...you guys make it sound like he is an unsuspecting victim. Let's keep it real, okay?
 
I wish this forum software had a "Dislike" link on it. I could wear it out on a few topics like this one.
 
I wish this forum software had a "Dislike" link on it. I could wear it out on a few topics like this one.

while TPF does not have a "dislike" button, it DOES conveniently have a "dont click on the link" feature that the admins just got up and running a few days ago.
not everyone has figured out how to use this feature yet, but hopefully it will catch on. :mrgreen:
 
This is a ban that does not bother me in the least. Perhaps I'm the minority. That's fine. Was a bit tired of his excessive use of exclamation points and smilies. #shrug

I'm tired of your hashtags!
 
Honest critique is something we've tried to encourage where we can and we are not opposed to it. Where the problem stems from is acceptance.

Many who give critique expect it to be accepted or followed; whilst those who get it do not always agree (for whatever reason). Critique should be a discussion process, where in each person can air their views and then offer the other side the chance to respond. They might not agree, they might disagree or debate back and that is part of the process. The two and fro shouldn't ever come to blows because its not an argument its a debate.

Sadly there are times where people (on both sides) get annoyed. Someone isn't accepting their viewpoint and things start to shift from debate into snide comments; or others jump in to "defend a friend" or viewpoint and again we start to have snide comments or a beat down of aggressive behaviour upon another member.

This is a mature forum for photographic discussion - users should not have to fend of attacks or beat downs and the whole "its the brutal honest truth" has nothing to do with it. It's about learning to talk with the written word in a polite and clam manner.



Its not unique to TPF and is a problem experienced on many larger communities. We CAN help fix it though - by leading by example as we mods attempt to do so and by having the key active members also do likewise. If you help you can be the solution.
 
Pumpkin donuts are good for you.
 
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