Combining Multiple Flashes For More Light Output Works ????

[Dao]

Oh ok. I was suspecting that. But the canon top of the line 580 ex is rated at GN 58 and this one is GN 53. Lets say its a low brightness etc. Still wont 2 (double the output) at least match up to one 580 ex ? But i was using 4 of these that too.

GN is kind of tricky sometimes. You need to make sure all other criteria are the same when you compare.

i.e. ISO, meter or feet, flash head focal length setting.

The GN53 on YN460 is based on - at 35mm focal length, ISO 200 in meters (copied from Yongnuo site)

While most of the GN number are based on ISO100 such as the 580exII GN58. ISO100 with flash head at 105mm

 

[unpopular]

Why not just use proper battery powered monolights and flashheads, rather than this idiotic "strobist" crap? It's the wrong tool for the job.

 

[plainman007]

DAO > Ill check the latest info on the YN's i got. I think they recently upped the specs a little (hopefully more than just on paper). This might at least help others make a better decision when buying new gear.

Unpopular > Battery powered monoblocks etc are too large for my kind of work. I mostly do run and gun situations. Will you believe it just setting up my cameras under a public bridge where everyone is allowed to walk etc triggers a defensive response from illiterates in camera laws. Just position these small flashes and try taking a picture and ull find some embicile (who isnt security or law enforcement or anything) trying to tell you that you shouldnt be taking pictures, OF A PUBLIC BRIDGE.

I had this situation last week, because i had my subject stand in front of a huge cement block, there were 100s of them lying by the pavement for an upcoming public bridge construction, in a public area, we were not even causing a blockade or anything because it was an open public field away from the road. We had a security nut-job telling us firmly we shouldnt be doing photography there since the blocks belong to his company. But they are all lying a public garden field and its a public bridge which means even the blocks are public property. I didnt trespass to take the pic. Yet he was kicked up (and was drunk too) and i asked him to buzz off in no kind words and he was trying to create a scene. . Was he thinking the concrete blocks will melt from my flashes popping off ? All this for my small little petty flashes. Imagine taking out a full lighting rig.

I think if a bulldozer is standing on a public road and its lonely and your not causing a problem/blockage then you have every right to stand in front of it and photograph it. If it was sensitive material then why would it be on the roads ? I think a lot of photogs face this problem at some point.

So at the moment i wouldnt want to opt for large lighting mainly due to portability. But maybe in the future, id love working with such powerful lighting but im at a handicap to store and cart them around. Also added to this is the fact that they are too expensive for a non-working professional. I would buy them in a jiffy if i had a revenue recovery model. But buying 8 flashes with 2 camera bodies etc when theres zero financial return isnt viable for me.

Regards

 

[o hey tyler]

Why not just use proper battery powered monolights and flashheads, rather than this idiotic "strobist" crap? It's the wrong tool for the job.

Obvious troll comment.

 

[480sparky]

............Unpopular > Battery powered monoblocks etc are too large for my kind of work. I mostly do run and gun situations. Will you believe it just setting up my cameras under a public bridge where everyone is allowed to walk etc triggers a defensive response from illiterates in camera laws. Just position these small flashes and try taking a picture and ull find some embicile (who isnt security or law enforcement or anything) trying to tell you that you shouldnt be taking pictures, OF A PUBLIC BRIDGE.............

So you cripple yourself simply out of fear of some stranger sheer ignorance? Wow.... the terrorists HAVE won!

 

[plainman007]

Yes the terrorists and their ignorance has won. I fear them. Now im starting to fear you too.:lmao:

 

[unpopular]

Why not just use proper battery powered monolights and flashheads, rather than this idiotic "strobist" crap? It's the wrong tool for the job.

Obvious troll comment.

Perhaps I was trolling a wee little bit... But regardless, Speed lights have their purpose, this isn't it. Even in the video they had a elinchrom head behind a softbox, so clearly this video example has pretty limited value.

I suppose the added bulk is a disadvantage, but since when do we advocate the wrong way of doing things out of laziness?

 

[Buckster]

Why not just use proper battery powered monolights and flashheads, rather than this idiotic "strobist" crap? It's the wrong tool for the job.

Obvious troll comment.

Perhaps I was trolling a wee little bit... But regardless, Speed lights have their purpose, this isn't it. Even in the video they had a elinchrom head behind a softbox, so clearly this video example has pretty limited value.

I suppose the added bulk is a disadvantage, but since when do we advocate the wrong way of doing things out of laziness?

"Wrong" is subjective. What's "wrong" for one photographer is "just right" for another.

 

[plainman007]

I totally agree with Buckster. There is no wrong. Photography is an art. Speedlights are a very workable tool. And there are guys that create killer stuff with them. Not me ofcourse im still learning to use them well. And like Buckster says they are sometimes ideal and with no second choice for photogs like me. So its the right choice for MY situation.

 

[unpopular]

Hammer a nail with a screwdriver then.

 

[2WheelPhoto]

OP FYI only, this light weighs about as much as about 4-5 speedlights, is portable and easy enough to tote around, and does a wonderful job for me getting 500-800 clicks in the field on a small battery. On ebay this light can be had on the VERY cheap =)

The lithium battery I use is so small I can't even use it as a sandbag although it adds 3 pounds anyway.

 

[Buckster]

Hammer a nail with a screwdriver then.

It would be great if you'd stop trolling.

Your opinion that McNally, Black, Hobby and other successful professional photographers who usually prefer and use speedlights are "wrong" or that they're morons who are effectively hammering a nail with a screwdriver, means about as much as the kid working the fries at Burger King saying that the head chef at the 5 star restaurant on the other side of town is wrong for using the tools he prefers in his craft.

Get over yourself.

 

[plainman007]

Unpopular > How about using a stone....cheaper than a screwdriver !
And suits me just fine.
Where do you guys come from seriously. :x

 

[Buckster]

Where do all you guys come from seriously.

I'm from Michigan.

 

[CCericola]

These are what I am looking to get in the near future. The thing is so many speed lights or even regular studio strobes egt so damn top heavy. I want the weight in the battery more than the actual lamp head.

Elinchrom Ranger Quadra Head A To Go Set EL 10293.1 B&H Photo

The vagabond mini is great but the older one was big and heavy and countered the weight of my Photogenic monolights.

By the time I bought a bunch of 580's I could buy one Elinchrome and get 400watts right off the bat.