Convince me to switch to Canon

Discussion in 'Canon Cameras' started by tevo, May 18, 2014.

  1. astroNikon

    astroNikon 'ya all Bananas I tell 'ya Supporting Member

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    If you are catholic/eastern orthodox, then Canon is a better camera because you can say that you have been Canonized.


    Oh drat, I have the wrong camera lol


     
  2. TCampbell

    TCampbell Been spending a lot of time on here!

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    I get this from time to time... my guess is you probably don't know the 5D III focus system. I would hazard a guess that many and possibly even *most* 5D III owners don't know the 5D III focus system. Canon has a 47 page document on the focus system of the camera (which is amazing, btw) and yet the manual not only does not come with the camera, they don't even make reference to where someone should go download it. The manual's explanation of the focus modes is fairly weak. The 47 page document is pretty good. Canon also has some video tutorials which are great at explaining all the differences and why you'd pick one mode over another.

    If you're focusing on a tight area with strong contrast and fine detail and want to make sure the camera SPECIFICALLY locks on to that really tight area... there's a mode for that. If you're trying to to shoot something in lower light and/or with weak contrast and want to expand the AF zone... there's a mode for that too. If you're willing to let the camera pick any focus point it wants and surrender all control, there's a mode for that -- but if you only semi-want to surrender control are willing to let the camera pick the AF point but only if it falls within a region of the image that you picked... there's a mode for THAT.

    And that's just how it handles the AF points... it also has an intelligent tracking and recognition system which is both configurable and tunable as to how it tracks subjects around the image.
     
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  3. DaninMD

    DaninMD TPF Noob!

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    link to that document?
     
  4. wickie44

    wickie44 TPF Noob!

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    I think it's 6 of one half a dozen of the other :)


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  5. robbins.photo

    robbins.photo Yup, It's The Zoo Guy Supporting Member

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    Umm.. because the Canon jackets don't make you look like your wearing one of those killer bee getups from the old saturday night live?
     
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    snerd Anti-Dentite Supporting Member

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  7. Derrel

    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    That's because when Canon introduced the 1D Mark III, there was a two-year window in which tens of thousands of professional sports and news shooters suffered through repeated 1D Mark III autofocus failures...after Canon had hyped the sh*+_ out of the 1D III's AF system as, "The world's most advanced ever," but it could NOT FOCUS properly...even with experts using the camera...the 1D Mark III autofocus issue was a debacle of thge highest order for Canon and its users. Many switched to Nikon to get a camera that could actually FOCUS properly on STILL targets.

    It took Canon an entire failed professional model to figure out how to do multi-point AF right...remember, at THAT time, Canon's 5D was using the 9-point diamond array that had been borrowed from the 30D, the APS-C camera. Most Canon users just lock it on center-AF-ONLY and never use anything else.

    Rob Galbraith DPI: An analysis of EOS-1D Mark III autofocus performance

    So...Canon now maintains a 47-page "double secret probabtion" document available to assuage the fears of those who got burned so badly in their last focus fiasco. On the flip side...used Canon 1D Mark III cameras are DIRT CHEAP...saw one yesterday in Pro Photo Supply for $995...same-generation Nikon D3 is $1,850. LOTS of cheap, used Canon 1D Mark III bodies available at 1/8 of their new price!!!
     
  8. Derrel

    Derrel Mr. Rain Cloud

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    Now THIS, this was some funny ****!!! SOme of the introduction to the web site's lonmg,2-year article series on the 1D III AF debacle. Canon--the company that invented AF that grew WORSE under bright, sunny,warm weather!!!!!!! HILARIOUS!!! The 1D Mark III was the reason so many people left Canon and went to Nikon...to be able to buy a Nikon D3...to get a camera that could actually FOCUS properly.

    Q. What are the camera's autofocus problems?

    It has four, all of which are related to the camera's autofocus performance:

    1. Under certain conditions, the EOS-1D Mark III has difficulty acquiring focus initially. In a multi-frame burst, the camera will sometimes shoot three to five frames before a moving subject comes into focus, and occasionally a moving subject will not actually snap into focus before the burst is completed.
    2. Under certain conditions, the camera is unable to properly track a moving subject. We've shot numerous sequences of 20+ frames where no more than five or six frames are in focus, even when the AF point has been on the subject throughout.
    3. Focus can shift slightly but constantly at times when the subject isn't moving. Under certain conditions, the subject may not actually come into focus through a sequence of frames, even though the point of focus can be seen to be shifting throughout the sequence. This is true whether the camera is set to AI Servo and focus is active throughout the sequence, or when it's set to One Shot and focus is activated between each frame.
    4. When tracking a subject that's moving somewhat erratically, the camera is far too quick to shift focus elsewhere - to the background or, with a field sport like soccer, to a player passing through in the foreground. With the first three problems, autofocus settings changes don't make things better or worse. With this problem, Custom Function III-2, AI Servo Tracking Sensitivity, does have an impact. But regardless of how this Custom Function is set, it's not possible to make the camera's tracking sensitivity be right. There's more on this ahead in the article.
    Q. You say the camera's autofocus difficulties occur or are worse "under certain conditions" - what does that mean?

    It means that when the light is especially bright and the temperature is warm, the camera's autofocus performance drops like a stone. Yes, you read that correctly. On sunny, warm, beautiful days - the sort of conditions in which autofocus usually thrives - the EOS-1D Mark III's ability to make in-focus pictures of still or moving subjects is greatly reduced.
     
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  9. snerd

    snerd Anti-Dentite Supporting Member

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    Well, that's what I get for getting involved LOL!!
     
  10. Jad

    Jad TPF Noob!

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    Why would you want to switch brands now? I have been a Canon user since 1970 and have seen all the changes in equipment upgrades. As a Canon user I sometimes wish I had a Nikon D800 because Canon has fallen asleep with the release of any new technology. I don't think the profit is there anymore in the high end gear with cellphones being the most used camera today. I think there will less innovations with the high end equipment in the future. Do you remember the name Kodak, or maybe that was before your time.
     
  11. W.Fovall

    W.Fovall No longer a newbie, moving up!

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    buy a canon bc I have a 70-200 f/4 to sell you...
     
  12. Bamps

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    It's up to you, you know what you want, what you expect out of a camera. I use canon because that's what I got and am used to. I just went through everything, computers, laptops etc., went from PC to apple Mac, not to be cool, not cause someone convinced me but because I was dissatisfied with my last few PCs, my truck stayed the same brand but a newer model with 4wd and more options, and my CANON was updated with a newer CANON. If the one you are replacing hasn't worked, quit it and try canon.
     

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