D700 Purchase Checklist Help....

manaheim · Mar 27, 2009

The D3 has the redundant writing option for the CF cards that is KILLER. RAID1 for digital cameras.

Still, this is again about a value judgement. Sure, it's not TONS better, but the D3 is still better than the D700... besides the point isn't so much comparing the cameras and saying the D700 is a lesser body, so much as saying you have to draw the line somewhere... so where?

Parkerman · Mar 27, 2009

JerryPH said:
blah blah blah

You honestly didn't tell me how it was hard to take a good picture with a D700.. I'm really not sure what all you said to be honest... I dunno, you just act like using a camera is complicated when it really isn't... I bet you are one of those guys that makes EVERYTHING complicated huh? I mean, pick the camera up, play with it... check it over, read through the manual... play with the camera more, have questions about certian things, refer back to the manual... Seriously..it doesn't take a genius to figure that one out

If you weren't able to start off getting good pictures with the D700.. well, then.. I'm just sorry.. I really don't understand how that is possible.

Btw, just so you know.. I DO have a D700.. so.. shove it. I really get tired of your holier than thou attitude.. It is VERY annoying. Who actually uses automatic modes on a DSLR? I didn't even mention auto modes... So I don't even know where you pulled that from.

Also, please tell me where I said "beginner level understanding of photography"

" "Oh no... there are no differences between a D40 and a D700. If you can shoot a D40, a D700 is a walk in the park, just pick it up and shoot... irrespective of the fact that there are over 700 more pages of information in a Thom Hogan PDF manual compared to Nikon's 139 pages on the D40x... even your understanding of the basics of photography is weak." "

Where the !@#$ did that come from? Since apparently you think I said that and all...

You are just wrong to say that it is hard to use a D700.. Because it really isn't... It might have been hard for you... But that doesn't mean it will be hard for everyone.

LuckySo-n-So · Mar 28, 2009

JerryPH · Mar 28, 2009

Parkerman said:
You honestly didn't tell me how it was hard to take a good picture with a D700.. I'm really not sure what all you said to be honest...
You are just wrong to say that it is hard to use a D700.. Because it really isn't... It might have been hard for you... But that doesn't mean it will be hard for everyone.

I'm sorry... you say I am wrong but at the same time say you cannot understand what I said? If you cannot even understand what I said in a clear concise manner, how do you know I am wrong??? Look, it sincerely doesn't get any easier and is proof that you simply don't get it. Maybe you never will.

At this point, I will just ask myself "if I look back and ask myself how important will this conversation be to me in 20 years"... the answer is... not very important. Well, then it cannot be all that important now. I shared an opinion and tons of facts. If it flew over some people's heads... I tried and the rest just does't matter. :lol:

That is how I am going to leave this conversation and go get my camera and head out to the city and have some serious fun.

Ciao guys!

Parkerman · Mar 28, 2009

JerryPH said:
I'm sorry... you say I am wrong but at the same time say you cannot understand what I said? If you cannot even understand what I said in a clear concise manner, how do you know I am wrong??? Look, it sincerely doesn't get any easier and is proof that you simply don't get it. Maybe you never will.

At this point, I will just ask myself "if I look back and ask myself how important will this conversation be to me in 20 years"... the answer is... not very important. Well, then it cannot be all that important now. I shared an opinion and tons of facts. If it flew over some people's heads... I tried and the rest just does't matter.

That is how I am going to leave this conversation and go get my camera and head out to the city and have some serious fun.

Ciao guys!

Good job, on yet again.. avoiding the question of how it is harder to take a good picture with the D700.

You are Wrong in the fact of saying it is hard to use the D700... regardless of the babbling you did that I read, and just didn't understand where you pulled half the stuff from.. Maybe its where your head is... shoved so far up your..anyways... To say it would be hard for everyone is entirely false.. maybe for old people like you... you don't catch on to things as easy.. *shrugs*.

Also, if you couldn't figure out how to drive a Ferrari faster than 2mph in a parking lot without wrecking.. you... are pathetic.. lol.

In2daBlue · Mar 28, 2009

Interesting conversation going on here.

I agree with the poster who said the jump from a D40 to a D700 is a quantum leap. Not even in the same galaxy here. To the original poster, you might consider a D300 as a good middle ground. It's a DX format camera that will work with the lenses you already have. If you have some extra cash burning a hole in your pocket go out and buy the primo glass that has been mentioned here. Each piece will run you $1,500 to $2,200 each. Then, when you have all of that professional glass and have mastered the D300 you will be ready for the next round of Nikon professional cameras that will be coming out in the next 18-24 months that will be even better than the 700.

I don't think people can't find their way into a professional level camera but if you want to get your money's worth out of the D700 you have to have get the right glass first. Otherwise, you might has well just buy the D300 and keep building you bag up.

Also, and I hate to say this, but anyone who doesn't know the difference between an FX and DX format and who is wondering, even for a second, about buying a camera from one of the cheapo sites probably isn't ready for the D700 or D3... Today at least. Like I said, I think anyone can grow into a camera, no matter who they are.

Bottom line: Invest in nice glass before you invest in a professional level camera. Any pro (like do it for a living) will tell you that is the sequence you should take. Any amateur will tell you it doesn't matter... only because they don't know any better themselves.

AlexColeman · Mar 28, 2009

If you can afford it, go with that and the trinity, and a 105 vr, 85 1.4, MB D10, and be the best equipped former D40 user ever. The key is if you can afford it, because if you can, you can learn while you shoot, I went from no camera to D90 to what I shoot with now in about 3 months. I love it, you will too.

AlexColeman · Mar 28, 2009

In2daBlue said:
Like I said, I think anyone can grow into a camera, no matter who they are.

Just caught this, you can always grow into it, so why not start there instead of two upgrade cycles?

In2daBlue · Mar 28, 2009

Re: ^^^^^^^

If said poster can afford $7,000 to $10,000 right now in new gear I agree with you. Take the plunge. If not, start out buying new glass and then worry about upgrading the body. The key point to my post was to say the expensive glass is more important than the expensive body.

adolan20 · Mar 28, 2009

Here are some words of wisdom courtesy of Chris Rock:

"You can drive a car with your feet if you wan't to, that doesn't make it a good f****** idea."

I'm sure what Jerry is saying is that jumping from a low level camera like a D40 to the upper-echelon of cameras is a huge jump. Maybe not one you're ready for. But to agree with everyone else, if you have the money and the desire go right ahead but it may be a long and definitely expensive road ahead.

Montana · Mar 28, 2009

Why do some people insist that the D700 is too Holy for some people? Total BS, its just a consumer level camera that will be ousted by something much better in a few months. Why not let someone with money get one? Why the squabbling at all? I know Jerry thinks its the best of the best....who cares? Its a tool that is part of a kit that anyone with any sense at all can use within moments of unboxing it.

kundalini · Mar 28, 2009

Montana said:
......... its just a consumer level camera that will be ousted by something much better in a few months.

While I will certainly agree that there will be a better unit in the near future, I will stand firm on the fact that the D700 is not a "consumer level camera".

Shooting at ISO6400 without a lot of noise is unheard of usually. There is a reson for that capability. (not that this shot is exemplary)

Montana · Mar 28, 2009

kundalini said:
While I will certainly agree that there will be a better unit in the near future, I will stand firm on the fact that the D700 is not a "consumer level camera".

Shooting at ISO6400 without a lot of noise is unheard of usually. There is a reson for that capability. (not that this shot is exemplary)

Yes, and I agree that shooting at ISO 6400 is nothing short of amazing....so far. Soon, that technology will be offered in the very cheapest of DSLR's. The price point of the D700 is fairly attractive. Nikon will eventually trump the D700 with a better D3 series.....and so on. There is always leap frogging technology between entry, consumer, and pro level camera bodies. Canon does the same. The 5D mark II is a very attractive camera, especially at the price.

Don't get me wrong, I am not saying that the D700 is not a fine, fine camera, that takes "professional" photos.

And being a fine tool should not make any person say that it is out of someone elses league...that is just rediculous. And to say that nothing but pro glass can be used on it is crazy too. We all know that glass is the major factor, but its not a 100% deal breaker to not have the absolute best. There are sub pro lenses that are very capable. The D700 barely out resolves the D300. It slightly edges out Canon's original 5D. So should one be saying that only Nikons pro glass can be used on the D300...no. I think some folks (not you kundalini) are acting very snobish when someone else wants a D700. Its rediculous.

I shoot crop sensor, 40D, purposely (wildlife). I know well that glass is key. I own a lens that I could of bought almost 4 brand new 5d mkII's for the same money. Am I to not own such a fine lens? Am I the greatest wildlife photog? Nope, I actually rarely get any killer shots, but i had the means and bought one of Canon's finest pieces of supertelephoto glass. i am just saying that anyone should be able to have top notch equipment without others trying to say they are not ready or not up to par to use it....thats BS. IMHO

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