D800 Announced!

[Forkie]

Looking at the body, I'd miss my focus area and focus mode switches!

 

[Trever1t]

On the D800? I think they're going to be easier to use. One location, button and dial. Read in viewfinder. Might take a little getting used to but not thqt big a departure from the D700.

 

[Trever1t]

Have you guys downloaded the high ISO RAW files and played with them? ISO 3200 is better on the D800 than theD700, LR4 editing workflow feels just as quick as D700 processing. It's an awesome camera and I'm really getting excited.

 

[gsgary]

I'm interested in the Canon, not for personal use but to compare technologies. If I had the $ I'd buy one of each

I'm just glad the D800 looks like it will fit nicely in my kit. Not replace my D700 but accent it.

In the end the make of camera does not matter if the photographer does not know how to use it

 

[Trever1t]

that pretty much goes for everything eh?

 

[greybeard]

Have you guys downloaded the high ISO RAW files and played with them? ISO 3200 is better on the D800 than theD700, LR4 editing workflow feels just as quick as D700 processing. It's an awesome camera and I'm really getting excited.

What sight has these files?

 

[Trever1t]

DP Review forims has quite a bit of interesting tech info includjng RAW files and engineering data.

 

[Garbz]

Have you guys downloaded the high ISO RAW files and played with them? ISO 3200 is better on the D800 than theD700, LR4 editing workflow feels just as quick as D700 processing. It's an awesome camera and I'm really getting excited.

The bitchfight between the D700 fans and the D800 fans is quite interesting. In every respect the D800 has worse noise than the D700 and statistical analysis across the recorded picture will confirm this. However all that changes when you actually stop pixel peeping and look at the damn picture you just took.

The far higher resolution has the effect of making the noise pixels smaller. You can compare this to having a film with a finer grain. The result is more detail and a *more pleasing* noise response across the image. That and with the additional detail and smaller pixels you can do significantly more noise reduction without squashing the visible detail in your picture.

Ultimately there are now two camps on the noise performance, those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 100% shots of the D800 (as asinine as pixel peeping in my opinion), and those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 57% shots of the D800.

 

[Trever1t]

Yes, exactly. It's my belief that OUPUT size is what should be compared and not 12mp@100% Vs. 36mp@100%....I mean it's ouput size that truly matters, eh? No bitchfight as I have a D700 as well. I've played with the files available, seen what can be produced up to ISO3200 and am pleased with the results.

I agree with your summary

 

[2WheelPhoto]

Have you guys downloaded the high ISO RAW files and played with them? ISO 3200 is better on the D800 than theD700, LR4 editing workflow feels just as quick as D700 processing. It's an awesome camera and I'm really getting excited.

The bitchfight between the D700 fans and the D800 fans is quite interesting. In every respect the D800 has worse noise than the D700 and statistical analysis across the recorded picture will confirm this. However all that changes when you actually stop pixel peeping and look at the damn picture you just took.

The far higher resolution has the effect of making the noise pixels smaller. You can compare this to having a film with a finer grain. The result is more detail and a *more pleasing* noise response across the image. That and with the additional detail and smaller pixels you can do significantly more noise reduction without squashing the visible detail in your picture.

Ultimately there are now two camps on the noise performance, those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 100% shots of the D800 (as asinine as pixel peeping in my opinion), and those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 57% shots of the D800.

I simply expected the D800 to blow the D700 away so bad I had to scrap my D700 and have one. Its too close for me to do such. If I was buying new I'd buy the D800 of course, but it doesn't seem all that to trade up to. Thats my only gripe. Perhaps I'm wrong and once it comes out I'll be forced to change my mind and make the D700 my back-up cam, but I'm just not feeling it yet.

 

[greybeard]

I just got a message from Amazon, D800's will be available March 20th.......

 

[Trever1t]

Yeah, I saw that, Amazon will be ready to ship on 3/20

2Wheel, I understand and can agree somewhat. While it's not a replacement for the D700 it is looking like a great companion. If I was going to buy my first FX body I'd still opt for the D700 as it's gone down in price significanty and offers truly the best deal for the $.

 

[Trever1t]

Nikon D700 vs D800 high iso comparison

 

[Nikon_Josh]

Have you guys downloaded the high ISO RAW files and played with them? ISO 3200 is better on the D800 than theD700, LR4 editing workflow feels just as quick as D700 processing. It's an awesome camera and I'm really getting excited.

The bitchfight between the D700 fans and the D800 fans is quite interesting. In every respect the D800 has worse noise than the D700 and statistical analysis across the recorded picture will confirm this. However all that changes when you actually stop pixel peeping and look at the damn picture you just took.

The far higher resolution has the effect of making the noise pixels smaller. You can compare this to having a film with a finer grain. The result is more detail and a *more pleasing* noise response across the image. That and with the additional detail and smaller pixels you can do significantly more noise reduction without squashing the visible detail in your picture.

Ultimately there are now two camps on the noise performance, those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 100% shots of the D800 (as asinine as pixel peeping in my opinion), and those who compare 100% shots of the D700 to 57% shots of the D800.

I simply expected the D800 to blow the D700 away so bad I had to scrap my D700 and have one. Its too close for me to do such. If I was buying new I'd buy the D800 of course, but it doesn't seem all that to trade up to. Thats my only gripe. Perhaps I'm wrong and once it comes out I'll be forced to change my mind and make the D700 my back-up cam, but I'm just not feeling it yet.

As great as the D800 may seem, I'm still trying to work out how the D800 will do in terms of potentially out resolving lenses, diffraction issues, sharpness issues caused by hand shake.. These are all issues that intrigue me. And not to mention Dynamic Range?

I am seriously hoping the D400 is a baby FX camera and dosen't use that complete 24MP piece of S*** sensor that was used in the A77 though. 16-18MP is enough for DX users IMO. I suppose Nikon could make a poor sensor, good though.

 

[Trever1t]

Better technique will be required, perhaps a slightly faster shutter, same as shooting a D7000 Diffraction may be more apparent after f11 but again, only if you're pixle peeping eh? If you look at the samples I posted in the link above, he shot those with an older 17-35f2.8 at 35m at 1/13.... a little slow for 35mm but still pretty usable. Stop worrying, the D800 is going to blow everyone away, sure of it. Surprisingly, there is more hoopda over the D800 than there is about the D4.

I'll be sure to post my own pixle peeping review once in my sweaty hands at the end of the month...if I am lucky enough. I ordered on Feb 8... 1 day after B&H opened pre-orders so I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed